Great to see this new website up and running, I know it’s been a lot of hard work but it’s worth it. Let’s hope all members really use it now and make it a great place to encourage new members to join the Rucksack Club and to share information about great activities.
Thanks very much for the updated site. Very much appreciate all the work involved.
As I’m a member out on a limb from most members, geographically speaking, it is a great way of keeping involved. Meanwhile best wishes to all, from the Misty Isle!
Karin, the penny has dropped. You must have meant Ade’s meet @ Egerton. Thats next week. Yes its a swampy jungle on a bad day, but what about all those stars in the new Lancashire guide?
Hi ?
This is my first time using the website and I can’t see who you are? Please can you email me your spreadsheet about your meet? Is it on or off road?
Many thanks
Mike Ferguson
Hi,
I didn’t realise that my name wouldn’t come up! It’s Ellie Howarth. It is on road, hopefully all on tarmac or similar, but I think slicks might not be suitable. I intend to use my hybrid which has mudguards and city tyres. A handlebar bag and rack bag should be enough luggage if packed carefully: I managed with that on the Way of the Roses. I just hope we are not overtaken by blizzards.
I wonder why my name doesn’t come up and nor can I edit my original post? Maybe Ian or Andy can shed some light. Meanwhile I will sign everything.
Ellie
Dinner update
On the Friday night members will have a chance to see the FIRST PUBLIC SHOWING of a Film/DVD of the 1975 Everest Expedition, put together by expedition members over the last two years and to be presented by Mike Rhodes. Mike has just informed me of this exciting development , and there will be a chance to see other slides on Everest, plus and an update by Dave Nightingale on Community Action Nepal, and it’s relief work since the 2015 earthquake.
The last few rooms being held for us at the Victoria Hotel for our Annual Dinner will be released to the wider public in the next few days. If you wish to book a room for the weekend you need to do A.S.P.
Had a look at the website, Peter. And on the town’s tourist website it says that snowshoe hire is free with the tourist card, along with hire of snowshoes. Is anyone interested in sharing a twin with me? Preferably a girl…. I would be mostly interested in snowshoeing and/or cross country skiing, at which I will probably always be a beginner. Got my own snowshoes.
Hello all back from sunny kalymnos I am looking to go down giants hole on Thursday the 23 rd November meet about 18:30 at wanted inn car park sparrowpit. You will need a set of waterproof jacket and trousers and Wellington boots. I can get helmets from work with lights. Can you let me know who is still up for it. There is a £3 per person trespass fee we have to pay to walk over field to cave. Cheers wilf
Thought this may be of interest to Photographers out there.
The 2017 Moors for the Future Partnership Community Science photography competition is now open to entries.
Theme: The theme this year is ‘Adventures in the Uplands’. There are lots of ways you could interpret the theme, but we’re looking for dynamic, beautiful and unusual photos which show off adventures in the British uplands.
Prizes: The prizes in the ‘Adults’ category are an Opticron spotting telescope bundle worth £450, an Adventurequip ‘walking gear’ bundle worth £70, and a £50 voucher to spend in the Alpkit outdoor shops or website. The prize in the ‘15 and under’ category is a Gardenature HD nestbox camera system worth £99.
Thanks Ellie for the great photos , the Victoria Hotel did us proud !
Great to see so many new and old faces a special thanks also to Mike Rhodes , Dave Nightingale, Gordon Adshead , John Payne for making it happen !
A couple of members have asked me where to find further information on crevasse rescue techniques. I have always found the Petzl web site most informative. Here’s the link to their “Tips, tactics, and techniques for ski mountaineering”:
Let’s please see if we can get some dialog going about the Chamonix meets now that the email alerts are hopefully working again. Please post some comments. Good, bad, sarcastic, trivial, informative; anything just to let me know whether anybody is looking at the website.
Guy and i are off to Greece to the new sport climbing area on the Peloponnese peninsular, staying in the town of leonidio, from 12th–28th Jan,we have an apartment for the 2 of us,if anyone wants to join us get in touch.
An incredible effort – at least 8 times as far as I walked. Particularly impressive was the way they ran past Granville’s soup wagon without hesitation.
It was a delight to come down to Edale from a modest Hayfield – Edale with J R to see Helen and Mike after their EMEME. It is a long time since it’s conception and hard-won delivery by JC and myself.
We were inspired by the exploits of Ted Dance and his companions, who in their turn followed Brockbank, Entwisle etc.
Long may this Rucksack Club madness continue!
Congratulations
A fabulous effort (and sincere apologies to Mike for mis-naming him when we met in the Ramblers).
Having in the past managed several M-E doubles – well, I’m knocked out by this achievement which you both seem to have managed with casual grace.
WELL DONE INDEED!
I see from my copy of The Rucksack Application for Membership of July 1957, that one of the exploits I used to support my application, was a Marsden- Edale in January, sixty one years ago ( in a bit short of four and a half hours) On M/E week-end this year, I wandered slowly, in brilliant snowy weather, on the hills behind my house and thought wistfully about the “Doublers” and (astonishingly) the “Double- doublers” who were hurrying over the moors of my youth, and I was happy for us all.
Apologies Bill, but check out your ‘London Section History’ or my recent ‘The Beudy Years’ article (Journal 2017) should there be any photos that may be of use. You probably have already, but if I can be of help let me know. Richard J.
Hi I’m intending to write an article for our Journal about Beudy, if you have any interesting stories or photos please let me know, ie Kieth Treachers brilliant meets, Bill Rowntrees gargantuan appetite, Eric Byron, Taffy and all, any help would be appreciated, Dave
In 1959 I replaced (relieved ?) Dave Briggs as Joint Warden of Beudy. I was, of course, very young and had only been elected to membership for two years and I always regarded myself as an assistant to Roberts. That that was how my fellow- warden viewed my position, was emphasised by him on our first week-end of working there together. “Now young Neale, I know your official position but let us get this quite straight. Me master; you slave!”
I hasten to add that this is NOT the reason for which I wound up my academic research and took up a post in Ghana within a year. Alan
Hi Dave, I have writing an article ‘The Beudy Years’ (from the London Section History publication – copy should be at Beudy) for the 2017 Journal. Happy for you to use any of this information should you wish, although I imagine you will be looking for something previously unpublished. I still have the LS Minute Books, so may be able to offer some unpublished ‘gossip’ &/or photos, although the latter are somewhat poor quality. Contact me if I could be of help. Richard J.
Attendees: Mike Russell, Simon Rippon (am), Ian Winterburn, Gareth Llewelyn, Gary Bunting, John Wooton, Sam Farnsworth (g), Tom Nichols (g) Ewan Russell (g) Aud Russell, Andy Tomlinson, Sarah Wysling (g), Jim Paxman
With an increasingly unsettled forecast for Wednesday 4th, the meet is switched to Awesome Walls, Stockport.
I’m not climbing indoors at the moment 🙁 but Andy hopes to be there from 7pm.
If anyone particularly wants to climb earlier, let me know in good time and I could just belay for a while until others arrive – otherwise there are auto-belays and bouldering walls to play on.
Great to hear that the weather was reasonable and that we are back to decent Easter Meets. Very sorry that I was not able to join in. Best regards to Les, Betty, Dick, Andy et al. Gordon +Z
Yes, it was a very well supported Easter Meet. Parties were out every day in the excellent weather and snow conditions, walking and climbing on Munros, Corbetts, and Marilyns. Thanks to all attendees who made it so enjoyable. Same place and time next year? Les.
Mary and I are booked in for the meet, and at Turner Hall Farm campsite for Thursday, Fri, Sat. Seemed a good idea as it’s handy, has good facilities, and will be appreciated by Anthony and Hillary our good neighbours at the farm. Regarding High Moss history, l pulled together photos and comment on the excavation by Granville and his team of the hole for the outside water tank and the later construction of the Hobbit House. They are in a ring binder at H.M.
In 1977, l organised a club walk from H.M to Edale to celebrate the club’s Jubilee. I intend to copy reports and details of the route and add this to the above folder for your anyone interested.
Hi Bill. Please book me in on the 70th Beudy meet. As regards accommodation I’ll make my own arrangements as room in the hut ,no doubt will be at a premium. On a different note, does anyone know
the whereabouts of the Beudy Logbook for the mid to late sixties?. Best wishes to all.
No plans yet , getting out on some trad would be nice. Just putting it out there to see if we can get a quorum together. The more the merrier.. and all that.
I’ll be at High Moss over the bank holiday weekend; if you’re venturing as far as Cumbria, I could join you. Keep me in the loop, please. I’ll be heading home on Sunday or Monday, so could perhaps hook up on the way home if that works for you.
End result:-
Saturday, Black Crag, Borrowdale. (nearly an epic)
Sunday, Trow Gill, Clapham. (dusty)
Monday, Kilnsey, Kilnsey. ( blew the last move !)
So a really great weekend.
Yes it is there and it’s hanging in the porch, there is also a rucksack in the porch that has now been there for about 3 weeks and is full of clothes, does anyone claim that? If so I’d suggest that you go and collect it.
Hi Ian.
Just a point of lnformation , the Clarence pub is closed. But the King Bill is open and is just further down the road towards Tesco and the railway station.
Hi John, I’m going to Masson Lee’s for around 11am tomorrow climbing with Tony (tall lad mid 30’s) ..you met him in Sicily. You’d be welcome to join us if you haven’t signed up for something else.
Jim Burton 07762332267
A wake up call on how physical caving is even on straightforward trips.
Around 4 hours underground, 3 bags of rope from my “1987 BERGER” trip seemed to work ok.!!!??? i must have a very poor imagination sense.
I am looking at the cottage i stayed in January,its a 2 bed room, with kitchen, shower and all we need for self catering also there is another cottage attached below i think owned by the same lady.This looks like it may sleep 4, both places are in the town and a short walk to bars /restaurants, i have contacted her and am waiting on her reply.Have a look at GRANDMOTHERS COTTAGE Leonidio on the web.The lady who owns them is amazing she brought us fresh fruit and veg each day and greek food to heat up.I plan to fly out on 13th Feb and stay till early March.
Looks a great meet Mark ( and a tough ride!). It shows how out of touch I am when I don’t recognise anyone other than you and Craig! Hope you and Jackie are well.
Louie convinced me to get my finger out and coordinate the unclaimed meet on 15th December. So … hardcastle crags national trust carpark near hebden bridge@ 09:30 for a tour of bronte country. Christmas retail opportunity in Haworth if you wish!
Hi Chris
Couldn’t get any more local for me so there will definitely be 3 of us from Hebden. See you in the craggy car park. I am guessing that will be lower car park but let me know if it’s at the top. Thanks
Lizzie
From Ray Grover re Wednesday Walk: parking by the church in Hope is quite limited, so we will start the walk from the pay and display car park which is along the main road about 150m to the west. Although the walk is not very long (about 12 miles) there will be 750m of ascent.
That’s great news!
As you may know I live on the Isle of Skye and Chair the Memorial Hut Committee/charity.
And of course am a member of the Rucksack Club. If I can be of any use before and during the meet don’t hesitate to contact me.
Charlie Harris
Word of warning to anyone coming to hebden bridge from the east (yes you David). There are major roadworks at mytholmroyd which are leading to delays made worse by the northern rail train strikes on Saturdays. Hope to see you there at 09:30 – rucksack club tradition mandates no waiting around for latecomers!!
Well my New Year treat came early. I have just had confirmation from the Mairie of Engins France that we have a permit for the Berger 1st–10th July 2019.Anyone interested in being on the team should let me know ASAP.I will be looking at getting a team of 15/20 people together in the next few months to go through the planning phase and organising training trips in yorkshire/derbyshire.
John Warburton.
EVERYTHING GOING TOO WELL.28 PEOPLE ARE NOW CONFIRMED ON THE TEAM, WHICH IS SPLIT BETWEEN RUCKSACK,CRAVEN & YSS CLUBS.WE HAVE BERGER VETERANS, CAVE DIVERS, RESCUE EXPERTS, RIGGERS,3 WOMEN,PHOTO EXPERTS etc.etc.ALL WE HAVE TO DO NOW IS GET ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE SAME MEETING PLACE AT THE SAME TIME,AND THE SAME CAMPSITE IN FRANCE,” on the right dates”.SIMPLE THANK GOD FOR WHAT’S APP.
I am most concerned that there appears to be support for a new condition of Membership, i.e. “All applicants and existing members must be in possession of a computer or similar device capable of downloading Meetstaff.”
Mike Dent
Keith – Thanks for your commitment and ‘Presidency with a smile’, although no doubt it was demanding at time. It is shame that Keith T. was not around to see you make such a success of the position… he would have certainly been proud. Hoping to get out on the hills more frequently and become more involved with the Club when time and distance allow.
I have a 1:30,000 map Kranska Gora, issued by turisticna karma obmocja a few year’s ago, showing some 12K south of KG i.e. including Prisank and Skrlatica. Happy to lend it to you if you wish – I can post it unless you are joining a Wednesday Walk sometime.
How did they all get on? Although it was a bit misty, it was not a hostile night as enjoyed by RC teams in the past.
The race was won by Haggis on Tour which included Jasmin Paris, the winner of the recent Spine Race up the PW. Their time was 8.32.42. They were all well under 40. It was a delight to talk to her.
Rucksack Club-Because Geoff Said So ( Helen has a wicked sense of humour ) were 21st in 11.45.33, and 12th Vets team AND 2nd Mixed Vets team when their age allowance of 8 mins/hr is applied. Well done you guys!
Our trophy ( made by JR ) for the fastest Vets team was won by Sanatogen Pirates led by our Jim Paxman with 3 non -RC team members. They were 27th in 12.09.33, but with the allowance of 20 mins/hr they won.
Similarly, Bambis Gone With the Wind led by our Ian Winterburn, were 6th in 9.49.41 and 5th Vets.
Simon and Tim Rippon and Kev Saville and their non-member A Wainwright had to retire.
I don’t know of any other RC participants.
Let’s see what we can do next year!
Andy, Helen, just wanted you to know I enjoyed that. That bloke Rae has exhausted me in the hills a few times Helen. I hope you are doing the same to him! Jim.
You can wild camp in Scotland pretty much anywhere. By-laws and certain restrictions apply, and you should follow the good practice code.
In England, Wales and Northern Ireland you can’t legally wild camp without the consent of the landowner, apart from on Dartmoor where you can wild camp legally as in Scotland.
It appears to me that the wild camp site website is a website selling ‘wild camping’ pitches in fields without facilities where the landowner has agreed to camping.
I had some one tell me whilst on a Gold DofE expedition in the lakes we were illegally camping at angle tarn. Technically that may be true but since the Mountain Training Association run regular ML MIA MIC courses including wild camping in National parks excluding Peak District I cant see it as an issue for responsible campers. Leave No trace, camp high, pack up early.
Looks like someone’s “bright idea” for making money to me! The domain (UKwildcamp.org) is registered to GoDaddy; buried in the site’s T&Cs it says … The Bridge Strategy (trading as UKWildCamp.org) …
Coincidence? but last Tuesday I was contacted by BBC Radio Sheffield to talk on a feature about camping and I was interviewed on Wild camping as I run intro to WC and hill skill courses.
These ‘OnThe Hill ‘ articles are really good Andy . This latest one from Brian makes me feel as though I’ve not tried hard enough! Full marks for a full life Brian -so far.
It looks as if pressure has stopped this – look at the Telegraph page on the web. It was obviously an initiative to soften us up for paying in the national parks – so keep vigilant, communicate and don’t let it happen.
What can you say? Another excellent meet with the weather pre-booked to provide sunshine on both days! Many thanks to Dom and everybody who made it a memorable weekend.
I’ve heard about Geoff’s exploits – even as a callow member! I’ve missed being at the Tour this year with my bike. The first time in quite a few years. When I cycled to the Dolomites meet a few years ago I was with a friend Mike Murray (champion orienteer) and going up the Timmelsjoch into Italy we were being overtaken by all these lycra clad guys on flash bikes. Mike got fed up with it and set off with panniers flapping and overtook a lot of them on his old mountain bike before the top. They weren’t happy! I’ve just cycled from Santander to Caen but suspect I took rather longer than Geoff in his heyday, or even now.
I’ll come on a Tour meet Pete and happy to help organise. Enjoy the Black Forest.
VERCORS AUTUMN SUN ROCK UPDATE.THE DATES WE ARE GOING ARE NOW 20TH—26TH OCTOBER.3 OF US HAVE BOOKED FLIGHTS TO LYON AND WE HAVE AUBERGE ACCOMMODATION IN PRESLES WE NEED A 4TH PERSON TO COMPLETE THE TEAM. PRESLES IS A 200M SOUTH FACING CRAG WITH PLENTY OF SINGLE AND MULTI PITCH ROUTES ALL BOLTED.THERE ARE ALSO LOTS OF OTHER CRAGS IN THE AREA TO CHOOSE FROM. John Warby.
John…I can recommend a very good physio in Congleton, but don’t have any ideas closer to Manchester. She is not a climber, but is very interested in all sporting activities…I have seen her before and she understands the issues climbers worry about/seek treatment for. If you need more details, contact via details in Handbook. Andy
Mike Hartley is an inspiration to anyone who knows him. He is the epitome of a genuine Rucksack Club legend – modest to a fault, great sense of humour and with an amazing record of achievements across a huge variety of sports.
The indoor meet on Tuesday night was both interesting and entertaining. Plenty of sensible advice from Tim the physio. I’m clearly missing out by not attending the indoor meets on a regular basis. Well done Ellie and all the other members like Nettie and Andy who take the time to organise the indoor meets.
Thanks for your kind comments, Liz. The next lectures are on 12th November Tom Livingstone; 3rd December William Rupp and Felix Terrell on climbing in Madagascar; and Martin Boysen on 11th February. Poster coming soon….
Fifty years ago, I’m sure I remember feeling rarther pleased with myself haveing done an
easier route on The Ben. How times have changed as they always do. Well Done Dave.
Mike Bloody Hartley ! When I first met him years ago I was amazed at his running achievements . I knew I could never get anywhere near his ability on the fells- and such a nice chap . But of course a little voice said – He may be good at that but he’s not done anything in Yosemite has he .? Well he just turned his attention to big walls and proved he was up to that as well. Mike Harley – exactly as described by Brian .
Hi Dave I too bought Tibbetts book and have written a review for RCJ. He was at Kendal Mountain Festival with a ‘slide’ show. Such a volume should be on every Alpinist’s shelf. What an incredible effort to produce, without a publisher, from crowdfunding! He and his partner sure have energy.
Peter Standing, medical doctor, met up with a few of us rock climbers of the 1960’s/70’s. Among routes that I did with him was Crucible at Cwm Silyn on a swift day visit from Manchester. I have not recorded the date of our visit, probably mid 1970’s because we travelled in one of a succession of my Triumph Vitesses. He had a day off, the route had a bit of a reputation, was on both of our tick lists and so we had to do it.
WARBYS WELSH WEEKEND MAY 1.2.3. 2020. BEUDY MAWR.
This will be a themed weekend of climbing Joe Browns routes in either the PASS or on CLOGGY weather allowing,so get out the guide books and start looking.Just remember there are NOT MANY of his climbs in the VS range so being competent on HVS–E2 is needed.For every route completed i want to donate £5.00 to CLIMB AGAINST CANCER so thats £2.50 each team member
if climbing as a team of 2.Food on Saturday night i will arrange for both meat /vegetarians.
I will make a list of the routes i know so teams can choose their climb.
I remember being in Beudy, with son Nick, when Peter was plastering the long (roadside) wall of the drying room. He had us mixing plaster for him. We couldn’t mix it fast enough! A real craftsman.
John Russell
Really enjoyed your “On the Hill With” piece Gerry.
Filled with envy that you’re still managing to ski. I’ve had to stop that particular activity – I just had about five hundred falls too many.
Also, deep respect for successfully piloting the ‘going mixed’ motion through the AGM (or was it an EGM, yes probably).
I too had been strongly in favour of the movement towards being fully openly mixed for quite a few years. As I recall the majority of Meets in the Club Handbook bore the prefix (L was it? for Ladies invited. How condescending is that?) which I feel sure eased progress towards what you triumphantly achieved. Good on You!!
We are in “lock down” here in Chamonix. Everything not essential to life is closed. The borders with Switzerland and Italy are closed. It’s the same in Austria and Spain.
Watching the numbers the UK is only a few days, may be a week, behind us in terms of infection rates.
On the bright side I can still go ski mountaineering straight from my garden gate. The pistes are abandoned, the mountains empty of people: “Social Isolation” on skis 🙂
I’m interested to know the rationale for this decision. For those of us who can’t ski from our back door, access to the huts and mountains would be valuable for our mental health. If people choose to avoid them, they can; personally I would like to think that if I’m healthy, I could make use of them.
Rachel – I see what you are saying. However (and this is a personal opinion), I think the Club has a duty of care towards its Members and other users of the huts . We would be remiss in saying that business is as usual in these volatile and potentially life threatening times. I support the decision to close the huts and hope that the situation improves soon.
Hi Bill
I think we all have a duty of care for ourselves and others. I don’t think the club needs to do it for us.
I just hope campsites don’t make the same decision!
Rachel
Ps. I can understand why it might be wise to cancel all hut meets – shared dormitories etc – but not why it’s necessary to close them to individual use, when it’s quite rare to meet anyone else there.
As you can tell, I’m really upset about this decision. I wonder what others think?
Very good to read your interview. Though I don’t aspire to any hypothetical list of rock/ice ‘to-dos’ anymore, it is still possible to enjoy reading about other people’s attempts and lists. I have about twenty Corbetts in my head as possible in order to complete that list, but even living in Scotland does not make it easy. And now we are all tied to home-style fitness regimes because of the black cloud of con…s. At least it is not nuclear, and might disperse before 2021. So from your base in Cornwall, best of luck, and get permission for a few more days up on the Ben.
Great post Andy, I turned back on it in 1962 no faith in a jammed not runner. Two years later turned back on another great route when I lost my “Shibboleth” My mate Stan said we have turned back on the best climbs in Britain. Still not done them!!
Excellent presentation last night – really enjoyed it and seeing everyone. Huge thanks to Dom (and the dodgy one in the shades) for organising and presenting.
Thanks Boece and Dave – I was really glad that people seemed to enjoy the evening (and amazed that so many overcame the technology hurdles – I think we had over 130 people joining in the fun!)
A few people have asked who the geezer in the shades was – obviously, the budget wouldn’t cover getting The Real Bill Deakin along for the evening, so I roped in Roland Rat as a stand in (not John Cooper Clarke, although you were close, Chris – he was my standby option).
Anyway, the magic of the evening for me was seeing so many familiar faces in these ‘social distancing’ times, and getting a real feel of Rucksack Club camaraderie, so thanks to everyone for your company.
If you experienced technical or other challenges getting into the meeting, drop me a note and I’ll try to provide some guidance ahead of next week’s event. Talking of which, watch this space for a schedule (we’re already making progress into May for volunteers) and get in touch if you’d like to do a slot of some kind.
I did SHIBBOLETH with Mike Ryan and the late Dave Booth around 2012 what a route, we did the TRUE FINISH which puts it up a grade, sharing leads it is the hardest trad route i have ever done in Scotland. Amazing lead by Robin Smith with the gear he would have had or not!!,even with a modern rack its still no pushover.
Yes pal a great story i still remember us doing BOW WALL with you leading the 2nd pitch out into space,also with you and Phil Thompson doing EROICA at Pentire.I was looking through some old pics recently and there’s one of you on Bastille crack in Eldo canyon Colorado ,we must have done that also.Not been back to cornwall since we all met up with Mike Ryan Joe Flynn and Chris Heard a couple of years ago. I remember staying in that luxury caravan of yours a couple of times and not forgetting the famous SKEWJACK aka screwjack with Harvey the local surfer god.Will deffo get down and see you once all this lock down stuff has finished. John
Well done John. I am glad that I never got involved in your early walks.
I learnt a valuable lesson on a dinner walk up Snowden about 10 years ago: you taught me to be polite and pull over as a faster came up behind, and catch my breath.
Thanks John
Nice pictures a good reminder. There’s more snow evident than when I did it – sometime in the 80s. It was icy in the narrows. It’s a good classic, well worth the effort. Unfortunately. all my pictures are slides which are detriorating.
We bivvied at the bergsrund the night before. Grade is similar to the NNE Butress of the Chardonnet but a little easier.
Thanks Andy – loving the classic articles. This Jeffcoat quote: note in red ink alongside the “Lantern Slides” read “Did not take place – no gas” – reminds me to check we’ve got enough gas for tomorrow’s virtual meet!
Cheers, Dom
Doesn’t breaking your seat pin and wanting to continue out of the saddle on one of my Tour de France disorganised trips count as a mishap – thanks to a bit of trespass and taking down some metal fencing we found a suitable bolt to fix your bike.
Whilst on about cycling i also remember the Wall at Grimont when a young whippersnapper rode past you and in the blink of an eye you were after him with saddlebags swinging and taking him just before the top – he looked distraught but the English contingent were well chuffed and you did get a round of applause from the locals.
As I remember it Geoff was still shifting pretty well at the end of the double double. Gill and I had seen John Crummett going strong and as the light was failing offered Geoff a bit of navigational fine tuning over to Edale.
Talking of being a bit spent:I was told that at the end of the North Wales Horseshoe ( the Welsh 3000s then 100 hilly miles) apart from hallucinations Geoff had lost the power of speech to the extent that he couldn’t order a round of drinks in Bodfari!
He doesn’t give up easy and the best of companions.
What a great guy! We shared a host of days ‘On the Hill’ – not least the classic Winter Tan Hill Cat and Fiddle which was, perhaps inadvertently triggered by Geoff.
As I recall we (Geoff, Mike Cudahy, myself and possibly Ted Dance) were out on an important training run for the HPM when Geoff made a very serious allegation: “This Club’s getting soft” he challenged. We need to take on something serious like the Tan Hill to Cat and Fiddle in Winter. I had completed such a venture a few years previously along with Stan Bradshaw and Dennis Weir –– and we had been gently but correctly criticised by no less a luminary than Phil Brockbank for taking an easy line around Bleaklow. So, I was very keen to put things right.
It took two attempts. The first took place in endless rain and flood which eventually, well into the second night, turned to heavy sleety rainy snow. We reached Todmorden – nearly.
The second attempt was well worth waiting for. Snow during the first night, a diabolically hard second day then a gloriously tough day three from Crowden through to the finish the memory of which is still very much with me. Geoff done good! really good! And I’ll always thank him for goading me into doing it.
Also enjoyed many a cycle ride through the Franch Alps and Pyrenees with Geoff.
Great Days – What a Guy!
Yes I had a couple of pairs of these. Improved my climbing, but they didn’t last long. The metal eyelets used to rust and the sharp edges made the laces snap. I used to remove the eyelets with a pair of long nose pliers.
Andy…thanks for the Post…I remember it well and, from this distance fondly [most of the pain is forgotten], though I still remember someone suggesting I might be cheating as I took ibuprofen at the Outer Edge stop (what me?!) and, after this, JR commenting on the way I hobbled over stiles despite my drug supplementation!!
Magnificent Brokenspectre: top of NE Buttress after damp misty start, about noon with cloud still in the Coire. Iceing on the cake: descending Coire Leis there is a spot where the sun is directly behind the apex of the NE Buttress & gives a perfect halo of Newtons rings. September 1969.
“Working for Petrol Money”. Yes, in my first proper job at one stage I was reduced to working out how much I was paid for each step. 10 miles or more in dense thicket, especially thorn thicket, can be deadly boring. But then, who wants excitement when the options include navigational error leaving you walking away from your vehicle, or sharing a convenient path with a rhino or elephant. Yes, boring was good but rewarding.
The one and only Rob Ferguson ( and Dave Crutch). Also includes Phil Burke, a brilliant runner and climber that I was at school with!
I found it a great watch as well!
I wonder if I may reminisce about the Karrimor? 1988 was the 21st anniversary of the event and was held in the Cheviots. I completed a number around that time. There is a YouTube film for that year also and again John and Mike feature. I was an orienteer with Guildford Orienteers who could run a bit as was my partner Alun Jones of TVOC. We did the Score course, just a long one in those days, as it meant we were not in a long file and could chose a route to suit us. We had a piece of string the length of which corresponded to the distance we reckoned we could do in the time available and we laid this around the controls available to plan the optimum route.
Day One was fine and bright and we did ok, nothing special. Day Two was raining and the mist was down. Our best option we thought was to go a mile or two north from the overnight camp and directly away from the finish. Quite bold we thought at the time. We were going well and the navigation was great. Approaching the finish we decided we could get an extra control which we duly did but we hadn’t reckoned on how high the hill with the final control was. The upshot was we finished in a breathless heap with 20 seconds to spare. How close can you get?!
There were prizes for the 21st finishers on each course. We were 22nd and the finishers immediately in front of us had supposedly done a quite impossible course. Protests were to no avail! And the final upset was we failed to pick up an easy control early on which we passed within 50 yards of and whose additional score would have enable us to beat our club aces. Both have rankled ever since!
Geoff, the PBP brings back lots of memories. In this lockdown I have been sorting my photos, I have a some of you and me on PBP. I remember we didn’t set off together, but we met at the first checkpoint (about 200k). I remember suffering heat exhaustion and you kindly soaking a spare hat you had in water for me… and do you remember, when you’d stopped for a pee in the bushes, 50k from the finish, a frenchman on his phone to his wife saying he was giving up because his bum was stripped raw. I tried to persuade him to finish the remaining 50k, but he’d had enough.
Funny the things one remembers!
The usual Ryanair response. I think they are in breach of UK law and as the flight was booked in the OK and stared and the return ends in the UK, the governing law is UK. It might also be the case that the EU has viwed it differently. Go to the small claims court, that seems to be the only way with Ryanair. They won’t go bust, they’ve just declared 2BN euro profit for last year. I never use them unless there is no option.
sorry for the mis types! Your journey should have started in the UK, should have ended in the UK and was booked in the UK (even though it’s an internet booking).
They won’t pay compensation, but they do need to refund cancelled flights and are breaking the law by trying to fob people off with vouchers. I got my money back by disputing the payment through my credit card company and requesting a chargeback. They need evidence that you have tried contacting Ryanair directly, but it was fairly quick and easy so I’d recommend it if you paid by credit card. More info here:
I cancelled a couple of work flights with Ryanair and was offered a voucher rather than a refund (see text below):
“You have recently received an email with a voucher code to the value of your original booking. Please note that this voucher is valid for 12 Months and can be used for your future travel plans, please note that if you do not use the voucher the voucher before the expiry date you will receive a full cash refund, in the event you use the voucher in part you will also receive the option of a voucher for the balance or a cash refund after the expire date.”
Whilst I do believe that passengers have the right to a refund, the voucher seems like a reasonable way to help the airlines manage cashflow (whether Ryanair is particularly deserving of this consideration is another question!)
We have succeeded in making a s.75 claim for cancelled British Airways flights from San Diego to Manchester early in April. We had booked them through an agency called Travelup that had the best price on Skyscanner when we booked the flights in Sept 2019. After BA cancelled the flights, BA said our recourse had to be via the agent, not through BA direct. Travelup said they would only give us vouchers. After 7 weeks from making our claim, which was easy to do, Amex paid up in full. Excellent credit card service, in our experience.
I should have said It’s a photo of C.D milner from his book “Rock for Climbing”. I had a copy
when I was a youngster but it never had dust wrapper. Cheers All, Stay Safe.
It is indeed in the Dolomites and it is a Past President, but it’s actually Alec Ferguson on a trip with Johann Demetz and the photo was taken by Ken Davidson. Alec is climbing The Adang Kamin, proudly sporting Timpsons’ boots which according to the leaflet cost 51 shillings and 9 pence!
I’ve had another look at this, closer in on the original photo, and it looks like the part immediately right of the fallen bit has a gap behind it and could go at any time. I’ve never been there, and I don’t advise going. I have sent the photo to the BMC. The photo in Western Grit doesn’t really show this part, Smiler’s Corner.
Those are 2 incredible days out! Very exciting and confident enough to take a film of it as well! Matt looks even more like you now Andy. Thanks for sharing.
Ah…I wondered when the family connection would be rumbled! Unfortunately I don’t have the skiing ability…I’m not sure many do. I am reliably informed it is very hard touring with a bike strapped to your back…the ultra light-weight ‘Ski-Mo’ skis they use don’t help with stability either!
Eddie, Jean, I have a copy of Rock for Climbing and the photo you refer to Eddie is the frontispiece. In it the climber is about two feet lower than the climber above. You can see all the same rock details clearly. In the text of the book there is a photo of a climber coming towards the camera on the end of a rope at the exact same spot which is captioned “A traverse from the Adang Kamin”. Apologies if you know all this! But just in case.
Hi Owen
Well done – 2. Is Ian Tattersall ( Tat) Also much missed. Tragically killed paragliding after giving up Himalayan climbing to reduce his risk exposure!
Happy days indeed! The photos of Riggy and Bruce were taken at Sennen when we visited you I think. Regards Mike
Many thanks for reminding us of this article and subject Jean. (written 10 years before the mass tresspass on Kinder). It is certainly still an important subject now, as there are many signs that many landowners are increasingly lobbying to reduce access. The Ramblers are very right to stress the importance of clarifying rights of way before the 2016 deadline. Even now, there are far too many cases where public footpaths clearly defined on the OS maps have been blocked or horenously diverted by moneyed newcomers buying up old farms. Some o fthe latest maps have more and more of those dotted green stretches, implying access disputed. There is an interesting case with the Relative Hill Society that has a UK database listing all hill points of a certain height and prominence, where the landowner is trying to insist that the entry be removed from the database.
I do not believe that Andy Kirkpatrick’s views on mental health, race, Islam or women fulfill The Rucksack Club purpose to “encourage mountaineering, climbing and hillwalking and to bring together all those who are interested in these pursuits.” As such, I am disappointed to see The Club promoting a presentation with him included. That the Alpine Club may wish to promote such an individual is a matter for their own ethics and purpose, I do not however support our club in such promotion.
You are absolutely right that The Rucksack Club aspires to “…bring together ALL those who are interested in these pursuits.”
With that in mind, I’ve set up a JustGiving page to support Urban Uprising – a charity focused on enabling young people from diverse backgrounds to have the opportunities that we’ve all had, to get involved in the outdoors and climbing. In their words: Elevating and Inspiring Young People Through Climbing.
Excellent ‘ On the Hill ‘ feature from John Allen . Much of it familiar to many of his contemporaries in the club . Thanks John- my climbing activity roundup would be very similar but not quite as varied !
I think the latest meetstaff is one of the best I have ever seen and reflects the strength and depth of the Rucksack Club in these difficult times. I would like to thank Andrew Beckett for putting together this bumper edition.
Dom…thanks for highlighting some of the incredible achievements of Eustace Thomas. After all he did in the UK mountains he started to visit the Alps in 1923 (aged 54) where, over 10 years he completed all the 4000m peaks…he thought he’d completed them in 1928, but the the Diable Ridge has been climbed adding more, so he took part in the 3rd ascent of this ridge in 1932, completing the then ‘list’ aged 63. He was the first Brit to achieve this and only the 4th or 5th person in total! More to appear on Eustace Thomas soon in the Classic Article series!
I’m certain that when I returned it to Chris Foster on the Sunday afternoon of his meet, my plan had been to return it to Bill Deakin, from whom I had received it. However the weather being poor most people had left for home, Bill amongst them. So I asked Chris to pass it on to him personally. I do hope it turns up, Please keep me informed.
Hi Mark
I’ve emailed you – just let me know your mobile phone number and I’ll sort it ASAP 🙂
Thanks for the prompt – I’ve been meaning to put a post on here to see if anyone else wants to sign up.
Cheers, Dom
Bill & Steve, this is really positive stuff. I would be really keen on pitching a tent on Beudy lawn as I’m sure lots of other members are. Cheers. Paul.
B & S
FRCC huts are all open with restricted numbers for members only.
Could do the same at Beudy and Craigallan, max 6 persons , 3 in each room.
You could actually end up with more folk using the toilet area, with camping and Van’s outside.
Or allow tents, vans ,but stick to max 6 in total
Great idea.
Lots of campsites have simply restricted use of loos/showers to 1 person at a time. With requirement to clean showers after every use.
1 out, 1 in, to the block through the outside door.
That means that you could restrict close contact indoors, while outdoors campers can be responsible for themselves.
I think that sharing the indoor space is more difficult. Strangers will be sharing space for much longer and closer that “casual contact” in shops etc.
At the moment it is overly presumptuous to ask unrelated strangers to share living space with people they haven’t chosen to share with, even if it is permissible. Indoor space should only be booked by people who have actively chosen to share with each other for considerable periods of time i.e. overnight.
Hi All. Any members who would like to camp at Pen yr allt Fm, GR SH: 769 624 over the B/h
weekend (Ltd flat ground) would be most welcome. Facilities available. First come first served. Max tents 3. A modest donation in aid of St Davids Hospice would be appreciated.
Response to statement: Covid 19 update, Wednesday 5th August 2020.
Following this update, I interpret the last statement ‘We need time and imagination to devise efficient ways to resolve these challenging issues‘as my invitation to give a constructive comment.
My main request is that we have a debate, committee led with an agreed agenda, via Zoom (very successfully used with the recent lectures).
My overriding observation is this; many of us have had to work with Specific or Generic Risk Assessment, for many years and may have much to contribute. Also, in my opinion, I believe that we have to prepare for the micro management of our particular environments.
I am also of the opinion that the club should not rely on Governing Bodies as their sole source of way forward; theirs is, inevitably, a cautious response to Government Guidance.
From the legal perspective, there appear to be concerns about litigation from Covid19 claims against the Club (Committee position on re-opening huts, 09/07/20). The BMC Insurers position is this:
“The combined liability policy arranged by the BMC for the protection of clubs and club committee members does not include an exclusion related to COVID-19. This means that if someone was to bring a claim against a club, or club committee member, alleging they had contracted coronavirus at a club event or club hut, the policy would respond to defend the club/committee member and, if legally required, pay compensation to the limit of indemnity. It is expected that all clubs will take reasonable steps to manage the risk of COVID-19 within club huts and at their events by following BMC and government guidance. We strongly recommend that risk assessments are carried out and documented by clubs in order to evidence the steps that have been taken, for the protection of the club in the event that a claim is made.”
Source: BMC Website.
There are means of indicating and entering into the spirit of non-litigation that all climbers and mountaineers will be familiar with; ‘Responsible User Declarations, are already evident in many other forms of activity and venue usage.
I can supply a statement required currently by the French Government for travellers. This is simply a sample of a declaration of user responsibility that could be used to further mitigate concerns.
Many declarations could be cherry picked, to create a template complimenting our situation.
Whilst recognising that any such statements or ‘waivers’ cannot actually be used to prevent possible litigation, should someone be that way inclined, the Insurer statement above should assuage the fears of the Committee.
From professional experience I know that the evaluation of a Court, considering apportioning blame, would include whether the Defendant had kept up to date Risk Assessments, User Guidance and contingency measures, onsite and available to participants to read or use.
Whatever direction this virus is taking, it is up to us to work to manage it and not be governed by it.
Many of us will have recently used or seen facilities that are accommodating large numbers of people. I am sure that our membership can work with and follow environment specific guidance. We could also approach other clubs for an evaluation of current best practice. It is noteworthy that many climbing walls are now open for business using ABC and BMC guidance.
Prior to sending this comment I received, as many of us did, the latest update and proposition for Beudy Mawr. I hope for a great positive response to that request but there must be many of you, like myself, that are thinking the content of, 12th July update-Committee position on re-opening huts, 09/07/20, has been turned on its head.
Through discussion, let us try to manage the issues that we are faced with. I am sure that our Club has a vast amount of experience that can be called upon.
Our valued Committee Members should not have to shoulder this burden alone.
Sorry, I posted this to the wrong item.
Response to statement: Covid 19 update, Wednesday 5th August 2020.
Following this update, I interpret the last statement ‘We need time and imagination to devise efficient ways to resolve these challenging issues‘as my invitation to give a constructive comment.
My main request is that we have a debate, committee led with an agreed agenda, via Zoom (very successfully used with the recent lectures).
My overriding observation is this; many of us have had to work with Specific or Generic Risk Assessment, for many years and may have much to contribute. Also, in my opinion, I believe that we have to prepare for the micro management of our particular environments.
I am also of the opinion that the club should not rely on Governing Bodies as their sole source of way forward; theirs is, inevitably, a cautious response to Government Guidance.
From the legal perspective, there appear to be concerns about litigation from Covid19 claims against the Club (Committee position on re-opening huts, 09/07/20). The BMC Insurers position is this:
“The combined liability policy arranged by the BMC for the protection of clubs and club committee members does not include an exclusion related to COVID-19. This means that if someone was to bring a claim against a club, or club committee member, alleging they had contracted coronavirus at a club event or club hut, the policy would respond to defend the club/committee member and, if legally required, pay compensation to the limit of indemnity. It is expected that all clubs will take reasonable steps to manage the risk of COVID-19 within club huts and at their events by following BMC and government guidance. We strongly recommend that risk assessments are carried out and documented by clubs in order to evidence the steps that have been taken, for the protection of the club in the event that a claim is made.”
Source: BMC Website.
There are means of indicating and entering into the spirit of non-litigation that all climbers and mountaineers will be familiar with; ‘Responsible User Declarations, are already evident in many other forms of activity and venue usage.
I can supply a statement required currently by the French Government for travellers. This is simply a sample of a declaration of user responsibility that could be used to further mitigate concerns.
Many declarations could be cherry picked, to create a template complimenting our situation.
Whilst recognising that any such statements or ‘waivers’ cannot actually be used to prevent possible litigation, should someone be that way inclined, the Insurer statement above should assuage the fears of the Committee.
From professional experience I know that the evaluation of a Court, considering apportioning blame, would include whether the Defendant had kept up to date Risk Assessments, User Guidance and contingency measures, onsite and available to participants to read or use.
Whatever direction this virus is taking, it is up to us to work to manage it and not be governed by it.
Many of us will have recently used or seen facilities that are accommodating large numbers of people. I am sure that our membership can work with and follow environment specific guidance. We could also approach other clubs for an evaluation of current best practice. It is noteworthy that many climbing walls are now open for business using ABC and BMC guidance.
Prior to sending this comment I received, as many of us did, the latest update and proposition for Beudy Mawr. I hope for a great positive response to that request but there must be many of you, like myself, that are thinking the content of, 12th July update-Committee position on re-opening huts, 09/07/20, has been turned on its head.
Through discussion, let us try to manage the issues that we are faced with. I am sure that our Club has a vast amount of experience that can be called upon.
Our valued Committee Members should not have to shoulder this burden alone.
Yes, let’s get stuck in, so that we can once again “Get Out There!”
“ Climb if you will, but remember that courage and strength are nought without prudence…
Edward Whymper etc
Hi Eddie
Brilliant that Alison and Jonathon are interested in joining the Club. I’m afraid I haven’t bumped into them, but I’m sure that anyone who did would be delighted to propose and second their membership. It might be worth posting in the Facebook group and also pinging an email direct to anyone who met them – I’m sure you’ll get the support 🙂
Alternatively (or as well) we’re holding occasional ad hoc gatherings of climbers (not official meets of course!) so if they’d be interested (and are local enough) they’d be very welcome to turn up and tie on (in a covid-complaint and socially distanced way). Just put them in touch. Cheers, Dom
Nice one Nick- perhaps not surprising to hear your Dad’s Bonnington/ Boardman/ Tasker books inspired your adventures too. You wouldn’t have got chucked out of our Venture’s Unit for boozing tho!
Sussed quickly. really tests your decision making on basalt columns – wide bridging but then cant reach the crack or a safety first thrutch. Seems very popular nowadays and very clean rock – nice though if the sun would shine!
This is the classic RC walk that inspired both Alan Heaton, and then me, to make separate record attempts on the Scottish 4,000ers in 1980 respectively. We both went from East to West, and refined the Brockbank/ Williamson route considerably, by taking a straighter line between upper Glen Feshie to Dalwhinnie. Both of us were successful, in my case achieving the first sub-24 hour traverse on 20 July 1980. I even made it into the Guinness Book of Records (1982 edition). My friend Martin Stone then went one better, by reducing the total time in 1986. And finally Stephen Pyke has held the current record of 20 hours 23 minutes since 2007. It is worth noting that Mike Cudahy did the trip in Winter conditions using a bike in March 1997. Happy days! See https://www.scottishhillrunners.uk/LongDistanceRecords.aspx?LongDistanceRecordID=19?LongDistanceRecordID=19
Dom,
Am i the only person that hasn’t received a calendar – checked with local Rucksakers and they all had them about a month ago. Can you resend me one.
Ta
Pete
As The Club won’t be publishing a Journal this year, the Committee has agreed to send a free copy of the Calendar to every member instead – Hopefully you’ve received yours and are enjoying it!
Of course, that means we’ve missed out on a fundraising opportunity, so it would be great if you would consider making a donation to Urban Uprising anyway (maybe a tenner or whatever you feel is appropriate) at: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/dominic-oughton
The calendar illustrates the great good fortune we all enjoy in our appreciation of the outdoors, and to my mind this reinforces a commitment to share this joy with those less fortunate.
Cheers, Dom
(As a team member of a neighbouring MREW team CVSRT, I could promise to put a logo on my unicycle used for fundraising by riding coast to coast…
… go on… )
Magical show from JB last night – thanks!
In case you missed it, John’s talk on Islands is now available for catch up here: https://vimeo.com/502530983 and all of the Virtual Meets can be found under the ‘Stay In There!’ tab on the menu bar.
It’s pretty astounding pictures, even if we do have to use Internet Explorer to use it.
I remember some years ago that people did a gigapixel project for Stanage. I can’t now find it anywhere. Does anyone know if that’s still available on the web? As I remember that had higher resolution than these Yosemite pictures.
Great initiative Bill (& Ian). Really enjoyed scrolling through everyone’s photos. Fantastic memories of days out in the mountains, on the moors, on the crags & some even on the water!
It just confirms our clubs wide variety of activities.
Did anyone else spot the yellow holes in the snow on the photo of the Matterhorn summit ridge?
Thank you for the welcome and for admitting us into RC. Look forward to joining in virtual and then actual Meets in future months.
Fiona, of former Anabasis
Great talk from John yesterday – historical perspective plus amazing pics from 1,000m under the Vercour. If you missed it you can ‘catch-up’ here: https://vimeo.com/513304501
You can also find a great YouTube video of a trip here: https://youtu.be/62bkceLCjRQ
The next episode is on Tuesday 2 March and features A tale of two trips: Dhaulagiri VII and the Rolwaling Himal by Andy Tomlinson & Andy Llewellyn
Thank you for the welcome. I’m really looking forward to meeting you all and creating new memories. Esther Threlfall, former Anabasis and Fiona Bishop’s older and wiser sister (honestly ????)
It was great to ‘e-meet’ so many former members of the Anabasis on the last ‘zoom show’ – great to have you all on board and looking forward to a time when we can actually get out ‘on the hill’! Meanwhile, stay tuned for the fortnightly ‘Virtual Meets’.
Cheers, Dom
Sorry to miss the latest Zoom. Amnesia! Well-noted for 16th.
I, too, appreciated Dave Atkinson’s ‘Tribute to the Anabasis Mountaineering Club’ Dom which is on the BMC website.
Yes I agree Peter. I have friends and relatives living in that area and they say that during the last 12 months of lock-downs and restrictions, the place has been like Blackpool on a sunny holiday weekend.
Inconsiderate drivers have been parking all over the place. The authorities have had to introduce parking restrictions on the Holmfirth road. Volunteers have been busy picking up all the rubbish these so called walkers have left.
Dovestones was featured for walking recently in the Ramblers magazine. Then Healey Dell in Rochdale was featured. I’ve stopped going up to Binn Green to run since January lockdown because the police have been going round checking registrations and where they come from. Before the lockdown everywhere was parked up and mostly I was lucky to find one space left. I’m only 8 miles from Binn Green but won’t drive that far now because I don’t want the hassle of police asking me where I live.
Thanks Esther, glad you enjoyed the piece. You can find all the other OTHWs under the Stay In There! drop down on the home page of the website.
Cheers
Tim
Didn’t know you were a ‘chippy’, I was a ‘chippy’ at Loughborough (1965-9) too and took my B Ed exams in that very hall. I even remember a lecture in there to the whole year group, 150 odd.
That really is GREAT NEWS! Congratulations and many thanks to all involved (especially Joe, Andy and Andy) for taking on the task of putting this in place. Looking forward to “Getting Out There!” again soon 🙂
Cheers, Dom
Hi Andrew. I’m a new member and can’t find the handbook for your details. I’d love to join you on 12th June, have read the guidance and am happy to abide by whatever is in place at the time. Can you contact me direct to get my details?
Well done guys. Nice that you got the weather that one deserves
on Cader, unlike for myself and Jonathon two years ago.
Welcome to the Club. Hopefully catch up with you both soon. Eddie and Jonathon Birch.
Good call! Saw it last Feb pre-pandemic on the recommendation of climbing pals down there, we all enjoyed it, against expectations. There’s even a reference to Windgather – bizarre!
Hi Everyone. Just to let you know that the 30 “restricted” places have now filled up. Sorry! I’m very much hoping that the “rules” will allow more than this number, so do keep sending me booking requests (DIRECT VIA WHATSAPP OR EMAIL TO dominic@oughton.uk.com) and I’ll maintain a “standby list”. I will also post updates as things hopefully become clearer! Cheers, Dom
Well spotted John…it is all part of the current Covid requirements. The Club is following Government guidance and there is reference to this in the General Information for Hut Users under Beudy Mawr when logged in as a Member as, at present, Hut use is only available to members. Guidance may change shortly given the widely anticipated update expected on Monday [14th June].
Indeed sad news. Gerry and I have fond memories of John especially when he did the alternative Karrimor meet we organised. He seemed surprised at how much beer Andy could drink – I’d brought in a barrel of beer at the overnight – our garden!
He was a great proof reader for me in my first stint as Journal editor.
Oh no. So sorry to hear this sad news.
I remember the Karrimor and the keg of beer!
John was always great company on the hill, our conversations a delight. Love to all the Llewellyn’s ❤️❤️
Sorry to hear the sad news. John was a very supportive member of the Club for as long as I can remember. I recall a pleasant day at Wallowbarrow Crag when the sun was shining and he was wondering if Andy was ever going to take to the climbing as he followed up a route.
Very sorry to hear about John, always such a gentleman. We last saw him pre-Covid when he kindly delivered the book about Taffy to our home and we insisted he stayed for lunch. Many happy memories. My wife was particularly fond of John as he made a point of remembering the name of members wives at the dinner when he was President.
John’s friendly welcoming smile at indoor meets will be sorely missed.
He taught me the benefits of good manners on the morning of the 2010 Dinner. As we started up the Crib Goch start to the PyG track, with Carole Smithies, – he demonstrated that by standing aside to allow faster parties to proceed & descending groups to pass, we could enjoy the views, & catch our breath. Truly a wonderful gentleman.
Very sad news, John was lovely man . He offered support on my meet in 2014 ,met us at three locations on the Lleyn then ferried us back to Buedy on Bank Holiday Monday , the weather was awful ,roads flooded etc ! John just smiled and said he was glad to be of assistance . A true Gent !
A huge ‘thank you’ to Dom and Helen for all the work they put in to making this a memorable meet once again. A big thank you also goes to the many members who didn’t make the cut off and I know wanted to be there…your understanding is much appreciated.
Here’s to a fully open meet next year…and all the burger flipping volunteers!
Andy
PS What about the new ‘#findyouradventure’ [with the Rucksack Club] T-shirt…should be a winner, though not necessarily with me modelling!
Thanks for wonderful photos – they bring back great memories from before 30 years ago when I could still get up them! That meet looked well attended and very well organised accommodating diverse interests. Well done Cheers Stan Winstanley.
Lovely weather for your final farewell to The Lower Cow Shed! I’m sure there was much reminiscing as well as looking to the future in the Big Cow Shed…amongst other huts of course! We look forward to the history of the Anabasis integrating fully with your new home as members of the Rucksack Club.
Thanks Andy – lovely weather? – was ever thus! No not really! The Capel Curig Weather Station is on the hill just above the Hut so Capel Curig weather reports are Garth ones. I had a little recce of the Big Cow Shed last week and look forward to staying there and at High Moss and Craigallan too.
Wonderful report of your Munro round, Kevin. Was the BMC scrambling course on Skye you refer to run by the late Colin Greenhow? If so, I was the BMC Training Officer at the time (1980s) and organised it. He was a brilliant Guide and had a great sense of humour. Now for the Corbetts? Chris Dodd
That was a great read Chris and well done! I will never be a completer – too focused on the climbing – but had a grand day on Ben Hope with Mike and Margaret Hart for their last one and now my daughter and her chap have started counting their Munro’s…..
Thanks Kevin. I’m a bit (!) older than you and on my way back after ankle surgery so any next mountain will be fine. Your piece brought back many happy memories, thank you. Dave
A great read Kevin and really good pictures to go with it. Well done on completing them.
Very jealous that you got views from 90% of the tops…….perhaps you should revisit most of them in poor conditions for the full experience!
Thanks for writing it up.
Andy
Hi Rich. I’m a newbie to your group and am up for a Dinas Mot meet. Feel free to give me a call if you like.
Mahesh mob : 07803703487
UKC profile name : rockover
Thanks!
Hello Lyn, What a wonderful catalogue of derring-dos, starting with the outrageous adventure with Keith Treacher in Lyngen, the photo of Kaisergebirge Wall in boots and rope around the waist, the black cars of the 1950s on Skye, with Colin Mortlock on the Cassin route on the Badile, north face of the Dru with John Brailsford – anybody starting climbing after the safety conscious 1970s would not understand the level of adventure or length of neck you took for granted when climbing then. Good to read later of the Weisshorn with your son (Richard Harris and I did that in 1965). And Yosemite, and the Doldenhorn, Malham overhang with Pete Hutchinson. And later trips to the Costa Blanca, Jordan (I’ve not been there), and even Pakistan – a very miserable time there for me, swore I’d never go back. Skiing and nowadays walks with old mates. Keep up the leg work, love the hills as a part of life.
Interested to note you went to Norway in your early days as did my father Kevin a few years later. Colin Mortlock took a similar expedition from MGS and invited my Dad and John Whittle along as old boys. Sounds like their trip might have been inspired by your previous time there.
Thanks Lyn, that’s a great write up. I remember Keith telling me about your trip and other exploits. I too have been privileged to know K and was also introduced to his beloved Club.
Hi,
Thought i saw a post from someone about doing some snow shoeing on the Cogne meet but cant find it. If anyone is interested im keen to go and perhaps do a mix of snowshoeing and cross country skiing.
Cogne is great for cross country as it was developed for the Turin olympics and there are loads of tracks plus its handy for any of the Aosta ski areas. Get in touch if you are interested or know who posted before
pete
When I first climbed it in my 20’s it was the height of my ambitions, at Mild VS it was a step up. I had Greenop’s Up to Hard Severe Guide (anyone remember that?) which wonderfully described the moves left to the pedestal as made possible by ‘a small foothold, prominent in its utter singularity’. We trudged up from Borrowdale loaded up for an overnight bivvy, and first did Hopkinson’s Cairn Direct from Lords Rake. Moss Ghyll Grooves did not disappoint, in the golden sunshine of a summer evening with Scafell Crag to ourselves. Just perfect. Next morning we did Woodhead’s on the Pinnacle in swirling mist before heading back to Borrowdale, no doubt for a beer or three.
Thank you, Dave. Neat that “the very first entry” was by Dr Chris Cowley. Later he became “The Main Man” behind Saddam Hussein’s Supergun. His boss and “Front Man”, Dr Gerald Bull, was assassinated in Belgium by The Mossad. Chris was under pressure, but reputedly warned that if anything happened to him, wife or daughter, then he would bring down “the top three in The British Government” (presumably Thatcher, Major and Hurd).
He was a Founder Member of The Anabasis, and a fine climber.
Pen Ci
Gaynor Owen is climbing the final crack on “Hound’s Head Buttress”. So called because when viewed from below it looked like a dog’s head. This fine rock-climb was blown up by the council in 1963 because it was deemed unsafe.
Kevin Hostford comments:
Do you know of anyone driving back to Marsden after the walk ,as I will need to pick up my car from there to get back to Wetherby?
Thanks
Thank you for all your hard work Ian and for your honesty…making such decisions is never easy. Thanks to Gareth for agreeing to take over as coordinator at this late hour and for restating the transport difficulties.
Yes Ian, well put and a good decision. Two close friends announced in the last few days that they have Covid. So we are doing our best to avoid it and slow the spread. Best wishes.
Hi Bill
Myself and my partner Paul Scott would still like to go. I am an associate member with my application for membership being processed. We are both climbers club members so have reciprocal rights if that has any meaning at the moment. Can we book it for friday saturday? And if so do we need a key?
Thanks
Debbie Marsh
For those who couldn’t make the live performance, the video (alongside all the other virtual meet videos) is on the Virtual Meet Gallery which can be found under the Get Out There menu.
Sound s good But with no instructions onhow to access it I am afraid I have missed it
The above link is not a link as such
I have tried copying and pasting it into my browser and it just says Invalid meeting link
As it is a link for the whole of series 3 some instructions for future access might be helpful
Thanks
Update – the MUMC team topped out successfully, and with a bit of help from a late push by some Rucksackers went on to break through the 10,000m barrier. Job done! But there’s still time to donate to help push through the £1,000 barrier! https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/MUMC-Everest
Just to be clear(er) – Meet venue for climbing Beacon Hill Car Park WA6 6HE, GR 518765.
Meet venue for the walk Helsby Quarry Car Park, WA6 9PU, GR 490749
Please contact me by email if you think you may join us for the day and whether for a walk or a climb. No confirmation needed at this stage, but it will be helpful to have a list of people to contact nearer the date. Thank you. dave.atkinson27@gmail.com
What a sneaky way to hang up your boots! I bet you had Shirley cleaning them for hours and will be as pristine as all your cars.
On another note Im been visited by Denise Brown tomorrow on one of her road trips.
Hi Gary. I’ve never been on a Wednesday walkers meet and would like to join you on your Siabod walk on the 18th. However the news on the street is that at the appointed time, they(The Wed walkers)have a tendency to shoot off and disappear beyond the horizon. In view of my not being in the condition I was in the past I don’t really wish to find myself on a solo walk. That being said I look forward to joining you on the 18th June and just hope I can stay in contact.
Eddie Birch
Unfortunately Dave is out of the country right now and can’t reply to calls or emails. (Which is also why this post came from me.)
He should be back next week – before the 18th.
Can someone take over my Wednesday night meet AUGUST 3RD ,at SMALL DALE QUARRY near Buxton as i will be in Ailfroide France that week.
Thanks John Warby.
Hi Peter. I would be interested in joining you on your Saddleworth 5 Trigs meet. Are you planning on walking or fell-running (assuming the latter as you mention ‘….and a new record will be set….’!)? Living locally in Dobcross I am well aware of the fantastic landscape and views (on a good day!) on offer. Best regards, Adam.
Well Dom…what a fantastic effort and I can’t wait to get my hands on a copy given the quality of photos you left out! You deserve a huge thank you from the Club for encouraging us all to contribute and then setting about the difficult task of choosing the final pictures and getting it all together…along with the inevitable help from the Assistant Editor for everything, JP!
Andy
Speak to Eddie Birch, Eric is a friend of Dads and lives not far from him in wales. I will also mention that your looking for a copy of the film when I speak to him later.
Hi I am an Anabasis Rucksac member
For many years we have owned a villa near Fethiye and will be there from Feb 14 next year
I am more of a runner and walker than climber and we are 3 hours drive from Antalaya
But it would be great to get across to meet you guys when you come
Also if I can be of help with local knowledge or if anyone wants to stay on near Fethiye for a holiday then just let me know
Peter Simpson
Hi all, for Craigallan Hogmanay trip 28th Dec to 2nd Jan (ish): So far there’s 3 yesses(myself, Dave and kev), 3 maybes (Steven, mark and my mate Sam) and perhaps a few more folk(?) understandably reserving any judgement til they see a forcast! 😅.
Long range forcast sounds like there should be some nice windows of weather around that time, albeit not perhaps as convincingly certain as wished!
Any one else tempted/interested? I’m reasonably flexible on dates so would be tempted to head up a day earlier/stay later if that co-ordinated with others travel plans!
There are 5 of us going to Antalya in Feb for some HOT ROCK bolt clipping.
Can the 2 people from Sheffield i think 1 is from the club but i have lost your contact details please send names and contacts so we can meet up before we go , maybe the weekend before?
Thanks, John.
HI Andy yes please book myself and 1 other in for the meet as its my camping/climbing weekend meet in the wye valley 7th-9th july, so i’m on the way down there anyway.We will be camping at the count house if there is room otherwise will try and find a site nearby. John Warby.
Being an old man, I have submitted articles in the past, and I do like having a paper copy.
However my present comment is that the Austrian post office customs department has again sent me a long letter saying that the value of the yearbook is implausible and refusing to deliver it without further proof. These Brexit benefits are wearisome. I have protested. Last year they relented.
Alex
thanks for this and your articles in the past. I’m afraid we all struggle with the postal system with third country (EU and US) arrangements. Our fulfilment agents and JP do try to give as clear a definition as possible about paper Journal and the fact that it has no value- used to be so easy! We can’t mitigate for jobsworths in the receiving postal organisation. Sorry if you don’t get the Journal as easily as in the past. I’m a remainer too.
Hello
Do you have availability for 3 adults at Craigallen for one night on Friday 7th April. I am a member of the Rucksack Club, the other two would be guests.
Beudy Mawr – 75th Anniversary week-end Just to say that Beudy Mawr during the 1960s and 1970s was essential to my mountaineering lifestyle. It was the location and the people that endeared it to me on week-end meets, so I want to wish this anniversary celebration every success. I might be there with you in spirit, but sadly not in body as I no longer travel such distances from home in Scotland.
Hi Mark. Thank you for your interesting Mount Kenya post and would be keen to get involved. Please include me on your long list of RC participants. Primary interest is in climbing but would need to partner up. Also, in extending my trip to include trekking, safari etc. It is over 20 years since I summited Kilimanjaro from Tanzania, so it would be wonderful to return to Africa! Contact details in members book but ignore the mobile ending in 675 as this is now obsolete! Many thanks, Adam.
Hi Dom
The cycling tops look great. Sizing for cycling clothing is notoriously varied. Instead of ordering something that turns out to be the wrong size, can we please have the actual measurements of the garments? Armpit to armpit and nape to hem would be great, please.
Sizing info – if you order on this basis and end up disappointed I’ll get a few spares for a swap or a refund
Mens cycle top – S 37″ M 40″ L 42″ XL 44″ 2XL 46″
Womens cycle tops – XS 8 S 10 M 12 L 14 XL 16
Mens cool T – XS 35″ S 38″ M 40″ L 43″ XL 45″ 2XL 48″ 3XL* 50″ 4XL† 53″ 5XL† 55″
Womens cool T – XS 8 S 10 M 12 L 14 XL 16 2XL* 18
The subdivision of bed spaces is generally a good idea. High Moss has worked well in that respect. The bedspace in Beudy is quite small compared to High Moss so subdivision would be quite tight. Do we need a members’ dorm still? Would it be more flexible without?
Hello people i need to know if anyone is coming on my Wye valley meet in July.
This is because i have to let the campsite know numbers so they can reserve a pitch for us all.
I realise there may be last minute decisions due to weather forecasts but a rough idea will help.
Thanks John.
Wye Valley meet update, Beeches campsite are asking for tent numbers and also camper vans have to do a 2 night booking slot i don,t know why?? so if you are definitely coming they need to know numbers ASAP.Thanks John
Great pics! Good to meet up with some old mates at the Count House, albeit briefly. Couple of minor caption corrections (me being a picky local): Right Angle is at Gurnard’s Head, not Robins Rocks; Mike and Dick are on P1 of Doorway, not Doorpost. Take it easy out there….
Hi Mark, can you sign myself (Dave Crilley) and Nancy Crilley up for the dinner please.
My email is davecrilley4@gmail.com for further instructions, and what we need to do re. ordering food, payment etc.,.
Many thanks,
Dave
I’ve had several email notifications for this event, but I can’t find what day in November it occurs. Can anyone enlighten me? I’d like to see it on Zoom.
Hi. I’d like to do at least the single. If the weather is as booked, then probably the double. I’m a newbie so as yet don’t have the handbook and therefore no email addresses. But count me in.
Many thanks
Yvonne
Hi Ian,
I am intending to do at least the single again this coming January, however just struggling with a bad back at the moment. (Getting those excuses in early this time…!) Will confirm what I’m up to for definite closer the time, but for now, pencil me in.
Gareth L
I’d like to join, I’m undecided at the moment as it’s a very long way for a walk for me from West London.
I’m also struggling with boots as my current ones kill my achilleas after 10 miles, I’ll keep an eye on the weather forecast before I make any commitment and look for some new boots.
For info for those doing the Marsden-Edale. If you should drop out, please let Carole know on:
07786 485 485 or if you can’t get through pass on a messsage via The Rambles on
01433 670 268 so we know you are safe.
George Hostford writes:
Is anyone walking from Edale (and I am not asking about the doublers)? Its just that the use of trains from Chesterfield to Marsden seems to ensure I don’t get much sleep on Friday night versus using a car to drive but if I park at Marsden then I have to take a train from Edale back to Marsden to pick up my car; looking at timetables there is a train at 18:47 from Edale which arrives at Marsden at 20:30 which seems to be a better option than all train and bus. I would appreciate any advice on options apart of getting much fitter so I can just do the double!
George Hostford
Hi Gareth,
Thanks for your update. I would like to attend if that would be okay?
By the by, I cannot see any contact details or handbook anywhere.
Regards,
Stephen.
Update: some participants opted for a slightly longer route via Featherbed Moss, Fairbrook Naze and round the edges to the short crossing – and still finished without headlamps!
Bill
one of our neighbours has a grid type mesh in which the grass grows and it appears to work quite well. It desn’t get the traffic that Buedy probably does.
Hi Neil – thanks for that. The traffic is very occasional. It’s not very often we need to use the area. It’s when we do and people just don’t realise what damage they are doing.
The landscaping grid mesh products look good for this. I have seen plastic (as at Stanage) and galvanised steel at Jo’s neighbours. Probably going to need a contractor with plant to grade the area and lay the mesh. Give Eddy a call, he may know someone local with the necessary skills to do a good job if you don’t know anyone.
George
Thanks George – I’m assuming you mean Eddie Birch. I’ll contact him. One factor to consider us that we are looking at occasional use. The cost implications are significant – I would prefer that people would have the good sense not to attempt getting up a waterlogged slope. There are other parking areas ( but they involve a short walk back to the hut).
Hello Bill, The best way to fix the problem is with the plastic grid system ,but the ground prep is the key ,it’s exspensive you’ll need a contractor etc ! Bargin basement is spray the ground with weed killer ,cover with a membrane and stone chipping on top it’s called MOT , but check the colour off it cos you’re in a national park ! It would be feasible with a courageous working party ! Regards Jimmy
Jimmy, I agree about the chippings. I managed to get 20 tonnes of very cheap chuckies from my local council quarry (Aberdeenshire) and delivered by one of their haulage contractors, all very economical. Not sure if Welsh councils have their own quarries, but might be worth a look.
Hi Gill , 20 tons is about £650 ,it doesn’t go far ,I’d buget on 40 also cos it’s a small access it might have to delivered in 10 tons so premium on cost! Regards Jimmy
Brilliant Dom…thanks for letting us know what CAC is supporting. A huge thanks to you too for all the hard work you put in fund raising and to promoting CAC’s work.
Hi Tom,
Wow, I didn’t even recognize myself in those photos! I’ve had a look back through my photos from the meet and it might be Gary Bunting and Tony Gray in the early photos, maybe also Danny Struggles later on in the bright top.
Hope this helps.
Dear Mark,
Two nights, Friday, 8th + Saturday, 9th November, 2024 , double room with double bed, dinner for two both nights.
Thanks for organising,
S. Rowena CASS
Easter Meet, 1906, described in the 1907 Journal, Milner also attended the Easter Meet of 1909 at Dolgelly. At both meets it was reported that he kept the younger audience fully entertained by his reminiscences of adventures in the Hills.
Hi how do I see a copy of the above report please?
Good choice. It seems the editor’s song does not change! The current membership does not have the excuse of war curtailing activities. Maybe it is the prevelance of social media and an instogram generation more intent on pictures and short videos than writing copy which is leading to a drought of contributions to the Journal. Whatever is the reason, we are in danger of facing the same possibility of publication every two years or longer. Unlike the war years, members are able to ‘get out there’ and easily accessible now includes most of the UK and parts of Europe. Without contributions we can’t publish a Journal and publishing costs are increasing making a thin Journal very poor value for money. It would be good to get some articles on current trips and for me not to rely on the usual suspects and memories of trips many years ago. The survival of the Journal is in your hands.
Think its about time we had a live AGm. The AGM is more than a tick box exercise but an opportunity for members to get together, socialise and discuss – that does not happen on a Zoom meeting. We have live indoor meets so nothing really to stop us having a live AGM!
John Allen writes:
So sorry to hear that Tom has passed away. He was one of the first members I climbed with (along with Joe Walmsley, Geoff Smith and Harold Mellor). In the 1960s we often met on meets at Beudy Mawr and climbed in the Pass, on Cloggy, and he did the Skye Ridge in 1965 on a meet organised I think in 1965 by Harry Moody. He was the backbone of our organisation to visit the Himalayas in 1968 overland – we actually went to the Karakorum, from Manchester via Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Employed by the Manchester Evening News for most of his working life, he managed to persuade his bosses to release him for the expedition, continuously to employ him in order to send regular reports on route and on the mountain (Malubiting -24,451ft) and donate £500 to the venture. He had the unenviable job of relating the death of Brian Ripley to the MEN and to readers.
He was a founder member of the Outdoor Writers Guild, wrote regularly for ‘Climber’ magazine and was particularly keen to promote the 90th Anniversary of the Mass Trespass on Kinder Scout (1932).
He also had a remarkable recovery from Covid in 2020; eventually had cancer, dementia, parkinson’s, a stroke; he did not give up lightly.
He had two sons and a daughter by his first wife Ann. His second wife Barbara died of cancer some years ago, but over a period of many years had enjoyed world travel with her. He and I kept in touch irregularly and I would send my condolences to his surviving family.
My memories of Tom Waghorn are mostly of his presence on the Rucksack Commitee where he was almost a continual member between1962 and 1998. When the commitee after long deliberation, decided they wanted a letter, article or press release Tom would write it in the bar immediately after the meeting. The result was always appropriate, polished and effective.
He was a regular presence on Club Meets in those days and I remember climbing with him on gritstone in the 1990’s when he was perhaps less agile.
Tom was a highly valued volunteer for the BMC in the 1980s, advising on PR via the relevant Committee. His advice was always relevant, intelligent and witty, and he was hugely in demand!
Hi Dan, I’ll be doing it as a hike, albeit at a good pace. You are more than welcome to join us or you may find takers for a run if that is what you prefer. Cheers, Ian
I have posted a version of this comment on Facebook, so, apologies for repeating myself: on the subject of internet and, especially, keyless door entry (mooted on the FB post), could you please consider the fact that not everyone owns a smart phone and, furthermore, not everyone wants to own a smart phone (contrary to popular belief, life can go on without one). I would be very concerned if not owning one of those infernal contraptions would in the future prevent me from gaining entry to the hut(s), Sam (aka ‘That dinosaur in Cornwall’!)
Due to popular demand, I’ve added a route map (just about managed to print it from OS maps at 1:25000). If anyone wants the gpx route, let me know and I’ll send it to you.
Over the years I have driven from North Staffordshire to Manchester to catch the early train [07.00] from Piccadilly, which I was looking forward to doing again this year. Sadly the current situation with the rail network means this is not really an option…I’d need to leave home by 05.00😂. Hoping that by next year the weekend service has been resumed 😉.
Update to add that I’ve had a positive response from one other member, so the M2E Double 2025 is happening! Currently looking for someone to help out with provisions in Marsden at breakfast. Even if I can just hand over a drop bag on Friday to be available in Marsden on Saturday morning, that would be a big help.
Please let me know if you can help.
Cheers, Dan
Hi Dan, I’m in Marsden, have you had any luck with support?
If not I might be able to help?
You can drop a bag with me Friday, and I can meet you Saturday am. Let me know if I can help.
Sarah
Yep, the Nags started two have a two week annual shutdown in early January. If they are back to being open again, then we could move it back to the Nags in future.
btw – sounds like I’ll have to pop in to the Nags for a quick one on the way to the Ramblers – just to see who is there 🙂
It would be a ‘yes’ from me too.
I know some folk like to switch off and be away from it all, myself included. However, I would be more inclined to use the hut on my own and stay longer if there was wifi, as I could get other ‘things’ done in the evening. Being able to sort emails, or tidy up a bit of work instead of having to head home to do it would extend some of my stays.
My vote is yes also, updated weather forecast road conditions etc , keep us oldies alive longer, also if you don’t want to much social contact just stare a you tablet 👍 regards Jimmy
John Richardson sent me an email with a great affirmation of what the M-E means:
“Ian, I’m writing in appreciation of your support and enthusiasm for the Annual Marsden Edale bash.
Not sure whether my personal record of M – E encounters stands as a record over-all but it was, for me, absolutely THE early season meet not to miss during many many years, (most of them Doubles). The M-E set a bench mark by which to measure one’s progress through the year. I used to particularly enjoy the navigational challenges of the overnight sections, heading north from Edale, usually trying to add in an element of route novelty, occasionally with near disastrous results, such as when Brain C and I descended the wrong Black Clough, leading to a vertical descent of a peaty cliff in Stygian darkness. (Interesting that such ordeals are often transformed in the memory into glorious adventures).
I do so hope that the diminishing numbers taking part, despite your Herculean efforts, in the annual M-E and M-Ex2, is not a portent of worse to come.
It’s a walk that has given me so much and, I believe, still has much to offer. Long may the tradition continue.
Walks such as the M-E and many much longer such ventures seem to me to be part of the very core of what marks our club out as different from many other such associations. Whilst I very much appreciate the time and effort voluntarily put into the support and maintenance of our Club Huts, I would be saddened to think that interest in our property might lead to reduction of interest in “GETTING OUT THERE.”
Good luck with the campaign.
I now have a short list of people interested in them – they’re a bargain, trying to think why I’m not after them – anyway, I think we can assume if you haven’t contacted me already, they’re already taken.
Thanks again, all money to CAC and thanks again to Paul S
I have many guidebooks which I no longer, regrettably, use. They mostly date back to the 1990s and 2000s so are reasonably current. Would someone like them? I’d really like them to go as a single lot. Alternatively can anyone suggest a good home for them? My contact details as per the Handbook. While I live in Hampshire I am sure I can find a way to get them to you. Jim Morris.
Yes from me too. Even at my advanced age I find the loss of internet access a pain. It must be torture for young people. Apart from keeping in touch, I miss getting local weather updates, checking routes on mapping apps, bus timetables, etc. So there is a safety element, which can only grow as time goes on.
Foot in mouth time!
Thanks to those members who have pointed out that the revised completions list that I posted above omitted some previously-listed completions. For some unfathomable reason I used an out-of-date spreadsheet as the basis for my revisions. I am now in the process of rectifying this and will post a new list as soon as I have finished. I notice, though, that the Wainwright list in the 2022 spreadsheet (the current version on the website under ‘Get Out There!’) contains some anomalies, so please let me know if your entry is wrong.
Furthermore I am told that Gordon once had a list of Bob Graham completions, but I do not have it and my list is woefully incomplete. Again, please help if you can.
Andrew
Thank you for the update Steve…and a big thank you to Karen for taking this duty on.
You have done a fantastic job for the last few years Steve…thank you for all your hard work and careful management of the bookings. Enjoy a well earned rest!
Thanks for sharing. I visited Skellig Michael a few years ago while cycling down the west coast, it’s an amazing place! Also had a beautiful day but the crossing was very rough, the American tourists vomiting over the side of the boat right next to me really added to the experience.
Thanks for your message John, I climbed with Brid for 65yrs on and off. He managed to do Joe Browns numbers some time back, he got a nice letter back from Joe.
John Farrow writes:
Hi Dave,
I fear you, your son and the Club are caught by the law. The Club admits only those 18 and over as members. The law obliges anyone under 18 involved in Club activities to be accompanied by one of its parents or an adult declared – in writing – to be in loco parentis – standing in for the parent. If you look at the Club’s Rules on the website you will see there is following the main body a Child Protection Policy which sets out the issue in detail.
The Club isn’t only caught by the law in this matter. If there were an incident involving an unaccompanied under 18 year old – still technically a child – it’s likely the Club’s insurance cover would be invalid or more accurately that of the members’ affected, since the Club itself isn’t insured. It’s being a paid up BMC member that provides cover. If the parent or person in loco parentis not a BMC member that would be another complication.
I had the dubious pleasure of needing to try to understand these issues.
Firstly , I must wish Dave the very best on his recovery. Re the cost quoted for rehab services, is it certain he will be charged or have the costs be mentioned ‘in passing? Perhaps it may be to do with Welsh and English health authorities being funded separately and a charge made to the English NHS rather than him personally? I had a friend who also fall in acaving accident , sustaining serious injury . She lived in Yorkshire but was transfered to the specialist services of Spinal Injuries Unit in Southport.
Dave Crilley has commented:
Hi , I have had a chat to my son about Dave’s situation, he is a Barrister specialising in clinical issues. He said there are two main charities that help people with spinal injuries. One is called Backup and according to Darrel they help with all aspects of recuperation including mental issues. I am sure the medical team will inform Dave of the help he can expect.
From the posting by John Warburton I have just learnt that Dave Palmer had a serious accident while scrambling on Tryfan in April this year. This must be devastating for him, and those around him. I know no details beyond the entry here by John Warburton and am not seeking to find out. The poor guy seems to require a lot of rehabilitation requiring time and resilience. Such an accident could happen to anyone in the mountains. I wish him and all round him an eventual full recovery.
John Allen, member since 1961
John,
Have you seen the gofundme site that Tess has set up to raise funds, details are on Meta/Facebook. Tess is also managing the visiting so don’t just rock up at the hospital without arranging your visit.
Regards,
George
Hi,
Thanks all,
So have now ordered the guide book that Jim recommended – it think its like the Rhine and Danube one so should do the job.
Good thing about the club is that someone will have done everything before – crossing Greenland/Mont Blanc from the med/new routes in Morocco/El Cap – someone will have done it.
Thanks again
pete
Hi Neil,
I would like to submit some of my activities to the Journal.
I had sent you an email, but it returned unable to deliver.
Please can you share your email address.
MEUSE CYCLE WAY.
Now back after a great trip.. The guide bookend other info from members was useful, but when i got to the start every little town with a tourist office had free guides, but just for the French bit!
Route was well waymarked, with excellent often smooth tarmac so helped to speed us along. Surprising that we had no bike malfunction with is unusual for a long trip.
Camp sites excellent and about half the UK price – and of course beer and wine very good value. So would recommend to anyone and ive now got piles of info.
Pete
Dear Andy .I remember Rum very well It was one of my qualifying meets in 1986. I think .We had a great time staying in a building near the mausoleum . I think your dad Lead the meet. ps looked like great weather.
This is a retro visit to Rum In the 1980ts In fact one of my qualifying meets for membership ! Older members will recognise some of the members in one of the pictures! also there are ones of Ray Lee & Myself on the main ridge. We stayed at the mausoleum site in a estate building which was weather proof but not snore proof! It was a great introduction to the club if a noisy one. I seem to remember Taffy got lost as usual. Ray lee was my sponsor & I think Stan Bradshore was present .Meet was led by john LLewellyn who I think Camped else ware ! Sorry about this not in the right place put it is my first try at this method of communication.Tom.
Thanks Tom for posting those ‘historic’ pictures of the meet which my Dad led to Rum almost 40 years ago. Some great names from the past there, with Gareth and Geoff Edge looking slightly younger than they did last week.
Also fascinating picture of the boat, some may say the way CalMac are currently performing we may be relying on fishing boats again in the future!
Yes i agree with you about Calmac! I seem to remember on our visit to Rum .we used the large ferry to get us to the island & took the fishing boat (pictured) for landing ! Our packs were put in with the fishing nets ! mine smelt of fish for some time! I think the pier was unable to cope with the larger draft of the main ferry. You have to be carefull on transfer! Tom.
I managed to find the Meetstaff Report, there seem to be about 4 survivors! The weather was better and the boat times gave us half a day longer on Rum.
26-28 OCT.1958 BOTHY MEET. RHUM
Ted Courtenay leader
These who came:- John Llewellyn, Gareth Llewellyn, Vin Dillon, Albert Dale, Taffy Davies, Walter Riley, StanBradshaw, Brian Rhodes, Gordon Adshead, Rodney Mann, Geoff Edge, C.Wilkins, George Hostford, Karen Hostford, Ray Lee and guest
Thanks Geoff for finding the names on the meet. I see I was members guest! It was a great meet ! And a very interesting introduction to the club ! Tom.
Gerry Goldsmith has volunteered for the 7 mile variant and Gwyn Thomas has volunteered for the 10 mile variant. Many thanks to Gerry and Gwyn.
Also, thanks to Geoff Edge for putting his name forward as well
Good question Ian. My memory says:
Back row LtoR: Geoff Edge, Gareth Llewellyn, lovely fella and I recognise the face but name escapes me, Ted Courtenay.
Front Row LtoR: Possibly Ian O’Keefe, ??, Gordon Adshead, Rod Mann, Brian Rhodes.
I think it is Graham Heafford on the back row.
Closest to the camera just might be Ross Wilson who I seam to recall being there; I don’t recall Ian O’keefe being on the meet.
I also think TC led the meet rather than dad, but I might be wrong…
For those who couldn’t make it, the video is available in the Virtual Meets library (via the “Get Out There” menu above) or by clicking here: https://rucksackclub.org/virtual-meet-gallery/
as i have all ready bought 3 calenders via CAC i wondered if they were included .
AS it as prompted me to buy i more .
Thanks for all your good work as a cancer diagosed its all valued.
Cheers STAN
Nicely put Bill,
I recently visited another one of the Club’s mighty fine huts and found it in immaculate condition which was great. However, it struck me that this is becoming the exception rather than the norm. So come on everyone, it’s a privilege to have part ownership and access to these 3 great huts in fantastic locations for a fraction of the price of a round of drinks. I know how tempting it can be at this time of the year to have to rush out into the cold, damp conditions on a soggy, windswept hillside. But please spend an hour polishing the hut and making it shine before you depart!
I don’t usually get ‘taken in’ by Black Friday deals, but your sales pitch is so utterly convincing that I will see you at the ‘Godless place’ 8.30 a.m., Saturday morning.
Andy L
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Yes, that’s the thing about walking – its a bit more weather-tolerant. Wimberry is green, slimy and midge-ridden at the best of times…
Hi ian would just like to say like the new web site easy to use and upload photos thanks for all your hard work jackie hatton
Looks fabulous…wish I was there too!
Great pictures, Dom. Makes it look like a midge-free, summer evening paradise.
It was!!
… and some of the pics were courtesy of Rich, stolen from Facebook 😉
At last, signed in easily ! DVe
Good on ya Geoff ?
Great to see this new website up and running, I know it’s been a lot of hard work but it’s worth it. Let’s hope all members really use it now and make it a great place to encourage new members to join the Rucksack Club and to share information about great activities.
Great photo, Phil. See, its easy once you have set it up.
Great effort Geoff.
Well done, Geoff.
Well done, Geoff
thanks for all your time and effort to all involved in the web site much appreciated it looks great many thanks m&j
You’ve gone and done it now jeff i can’t use the excuse aim to old total respect to yo jeff
all the best m&J
New website looks really good. Thanks for all your hard work and expertise!
Superb filming and photographs. Thanks for sharing this on the website
Thanks very much for the updated site. Very much appreciate all the work involved.
As I’m a member out on a limb from most members, geographically speaking, it is a great way of keeping involved. Meanwhile best wishes to all, from the Misty Isle!
Karin, the penny has dropped. You must have meant Ade’s meet @ Egerton. Thats next week. Yes its a swampy jungle on a bad day, but what about all those stars in the new Lancashire guide?
My partner Christine and I will certainly be there for at least one day of the weekend, but not sure exactly when. Looking forward to it!
Stick with it Ian, it’s a brilliant improvement, Dave Cowans
Is there somewhere for users to set our own notifications? I’d prefer not to get the Emails – but can’t see where to set this. Thanks !
Hi Karen…yes, you can ‘unsubscribe’. Look at the bottom of the next notification you receive and you will see the following sentence:
“No longer interested in receiving emails about new content on The Rucksack Club website?. Please click here to unsubscribe”
The word ‘here’ on the email is in blue…click on this and you will stop receiving the notifications…I hope! If not, get back in touch.
Andy [Tomlinson, Website Secretary]
Very nice first pic! You can see the pleasure on John’s face
Yes I would be interested in this.
Please keep me informed.
John C
Hi Ian
Count me in please
Eliz
Hi Ian.
Me too, please keep me updated.
Cheers
Andy
Interested!
Please keep me jackie up to date were interested ☺cheers wilfey
I’m interested …let me know the plans please.
If you have got room for a small one let me know Wilf.
Yep, I’m keen too! John B
Ok great everybody looks like we have a squad of troglodytes. Will be in touch early October with date/time and meeting place cheers Wilf
Hi ian I am up to help you so keep in touch . John Warburton
Hi ?
This is my first time using the website and I can’t see who you are? Please can you email me your spreadsheet about your meet? Is it on or off road?
Many thanks
Mike Ferguson
Hi,
I didn’t realise that my name wouldn’t come up! It’s Ellie Howarth. It is on road, hopefully all on tarmac or similar, but I think slicks might not be suitable. I intend to use my hybrid which has mudguards and city tyres. A handlebar bag and rack bag should be enough luggage if packed carefully: I managed with that on the Way of the Roses. I just hope we are not overtaken by blizzards.
I wonder why my name doesn’t come up and nor can I edit my original post? Maybe Ian or Andy can shed some light. Meanwhile I will sign everything.
Ellie
Hi Ellie, Could you please give me an idea of the route I am interested. Regards, Mel.
Sent you the spreadsheet, Mel, to the email in the handbook. Regards Ellie
hi can you send me a spread sheet please to peter.shortt@zen.co.uk
ta
pete
Done, Pete
And me please.
Done, Sue.
Hi Ellie,
Please can you send me the spreadsheets as well, very interested.
Thanks
Andy
Done, Andy.
Dinner update
On the Friday night members will have a chance to see the FIRST PUBLIC SHOWING of a Film/DVD of the 1975 Everest Expedition, put together by expedition members over the last two years and to be presented by Mike Rhodes. Mike has just informed me of this exciting development , and there will be a chance to see other slides on Everest, plus and an update by Dave Nightingale on Community Action Nepal, and it’s relief work since the 2015 earthquake.
High Ellie,
Please send me the details.
Keith
Please include me in the list as well.
The last few rooms being held for us at the Victoria Hotel for our Annual Dinner will be released to the wider public in the next few days. If you wish to book a room for the weekend you need to do A.S.P.
I’d be interested too please.
Me too, please. willykitchen@me.com
Thanks.
Sounds good to me, Dave
We’re up for it
Boece and Kate
Sounds good to me! Guy
Had a look at the website, Peter. And on the town’s tourist website it says that snowshoe hire is free with the tourist card, along with hire of snowshoes. Is anyone interested in sharing a twin with me? Preferably a girl…. I would be mostly interested in snowshoeing and/or cross country skiing, at which I will probably always be a beginner. Got my own snowshoes.
Looks incredible and fab photo’s !
Not sure the website should be used for promoting commercial outside organisations.
Hi Ellie,
Could you send me the details too: gary4rucksack@broadmills.co.uk .
Thanks.
Hello all back from sunny kalymnos I am looking to go down giants hole on Thursday the 23 rd November meet about 18:30 at wanted inn car park sparrowpit. You will need a set of waterproof jacket and trousers and Wellington boots. I can get helmets from work with lights. Can you let me know who is still up for it. There is a £3 per person trespass fee we have to pay to walk over field to cave. Cheers wilf
It’s a great bothy is it not? Just out of interest did you have it to yourselves?
Jim
Yes we had it all to ourselves. It is a good bothy, dry and with a good stove and plenty of room
Eight of us stayed inside with another four or five camping outside or by the beach
There was even transport the last mile by argotrak with the ghillie
Thanks Mike. I should have been there. It’s a long way from Hampshire!
Thought this may be of interest to Photographers out there.
The 2017 Moors for the Future Partnership Community Science photography competition is now open to entries.
Theme: The theme this year is ‘Adventures in the Uplands’. There are lots of ways you could interpret the theme, but we’re looking for dynamic, beautiful and unusual photos which show off adventures in the British uplands.
Prizes: The prizes in the ‘Adults’ category are an Opticron spotting telescope bundle worth £450, an Adventurequip ‘walking gear’ bundle worth £70, and a £50 voucher to spend in the Alpkit outdoor shops or website. The prize in the ‘15 and under’ category is a Gardenature HD nestbox camera system worth £99.
Judges: This year the judges are photographers Jack Perks and Kate MacRae – http://www.moorsforthefuture.org.uk/community-science/competition/2017judges
Deadline: The deadline for entries is 31st December 2017.
Details about the theme and how to enter can be found here: http://www.moorsforthefuture.org.uk/community-science/competition
Thanks Ellie for the great photos , the Victoria Hotel did us proud !
Great to see so many new and old faces a special thanks also to Mike Rhodes , Dave Nightingale, Gordon Adshead , John Payne for making it happen !
Excellent photos of a great dinner. Well done Ellie for taking all these and posting them to remind us what a great weekend we had.
Can’t make this Thurs but interested in future.
Mike Pinder
i’m tied up thursday so cant make it sorry.
Thanks for sorting so quickly Ian…greatly appreciated.
Hi Ian
I cannot get out of work in time. Would be interested if another opportunity.
Elizabeth
ok everbody looks like we will give this one a miss. Will look to rearrange in late January cheers wilf
Ian
I no longer get any emails letting me know of new posts
Hi Bill is there many people at the hut this weekend, was going to go down friday and stay over till saturday. John
Hi Dom
Looks great, please keep me posted.
Cheers
Paul
Yes, it was so bleak on Bleaklow that I didn’t notice I had the camera on monochrome!
A couple of members have asked me where to find further information on crevasse rescue techniques. I have always found the Petzl web site most informative. Here’s the link to their “Tips, tactics, and techniques for ski mountaineering”:
https://www.petzl.com/GB/en/Sport/News/2017-2-1/Tips–tactics–and-techniques-for-ski-mountaineering
Enjoy
Was thinking the same myself…
Let’s please see if we can get some dialog going about the Chamonix meets now that the email alerts are hopefully working again. Please post some comments. Good, bad, sarcastic, trivial, informative; anything just to let me know whether anybody is looking at the website.
hi bill i am gigging New years eve.John. Happy NY to you all.
Guy and i are off to Greece to the new sport climbing area on the Peloponnese peninsular, staying in the town of leonidio, from 12th–28th Jan,we have an apartment for the 2 of us,if anyone wants to join us get in touch.
John,
Neil…both this and your Post about the WAM18 are excellent…the pdf was easily accessed as well…loads of info therein!
Indeed it was Bill as was the new stove in the Dining Room, an excellent improvement, I suspect it may become an annual event, Dave
Great work and thanks to everyone involved Keith
This is an excellent addition to Beudy, great weekend Dave
An incredible effort – at least 8 times as far as I walked. Particularly impressive was the way they ran past Granville’s soup wagon without hesitation.
It was a delight to come down to Edale from a modest Hayfield – Edale with J R to see Helen and Mike after their EMEME. It is a long time since it’s conception and hard-won delivery by JC and myself.
We were inspired by the exploits of Ted Dance and his companions, who in their turn followed Brockbank, Entwisle etc.
Long may this Rucksack Club madness continue!
Congratulations
A fabulous effort (and sincere apologies to Mike for mis-naming him when we met in the Ramblers).
Having in the past managed several M-E doubles – well, I’m knocked out by this achievement which you both seem to have managed with casual grace.
WELL DONE INDEED!
I see from my copy of The Rucksack Application for Membership of July 1957, that one of the exploits I used to support my application, was a Marsden- Edale in January, sixty one years ago ( in a bit short of four and a half hours) On M/E week-end this year, I wandered slowly, in brilliant snowy weather, on the hills behind my house and thought wistfully about the “Doublers” and (astonishingly) the “Double- doublers” who were hurrying over the moors of my youth, and I was happy for us all.
Dear Bill I have some photos of .A meet at Beudy in the 80ts + some of the hills in the 70ts all in black & white! any use to you bill?
Yes please Tom – all contributions greatly received.
Apologies Bill, but check out your ‘London Section History’ or my recent ‘The Beudy Years’ article (Journal 2017) should there be any photos that may be of use. You probably have already, but if I can be of help let me know. Richard J.
Hi I’m intending to write an article for our Journal about Beudy, if you have any interesting stories or photos please let me know, ie Kieth Treachers brilliant meets, Bill Rowntrees gargantuan appetite, Eric Byron, Taffy and all, any help would be appreciated, Dave
In 1959 I replaced (relieved ?) Dave Briggs as Joint Warden of Beudy. I was, of course, very young and had only been elected to membership for two years and I always regarded myself as an assistant to Roberts. That that was how my fellow- warden viewed my position, was emphasised by him on our first week-end of working there together. “Now young Neale, I know your official position but let us get this quite straight. Me master; you slave!”
I hasten to add that this is NOT the reason for which I wound up my academic research and took up a post in Ghana within a year. Alan
Hi Dave, I have writing an article ‘The Beudy Years’ (from the London Section History publication – copy should be at Beudy) for the 2017 Journal. Happy for you to use any of this information should you wish, although I imagine you will be looking for something previously unpublished. I still have the LS Minute Books, so may be able to offer some unpublished ‘gossip’ &/or photos, although the latter are somewhat poor quality. Contact me if I could be of help. Richard J.
Sorry I forgot to say my e- mail is in the handbook, Dave
Attendees: Mike Russell, Simon Rippon (am), Ian Winterburn, Gareth Llewelyn, Gary Bunting, John Wooton, Sam Farnsworth (g), Tom Nichols (g) Ewan Russell (g) Aud Russell, Andy Tomlinson, Sarah Wysling (g), Jim Paxman
Thanks Alan, regards, Dave
The above images show Neil Sawyer off piste around Le Tour at the head of the Chamonix valley.
Great pictures Steve – a really enjoyable day yesterday making fresh tracks all over the mountain at Le Tour with Steve and Moira.
You did get mine didn’t you Bill?
looks amazing
With an increasingly unsettled forecast for Wednesday 4th, the meet is switched to Awesome Walls, Stockport.
I’m not climbing indoors at the moment 🙁 but Andy hopes to be there from 7pm.
If anyone particularly wants to climb earlier, let me know in good time and I could just belay for a while until others arrive – otherwise there are auto-belays and bouldering walls to play on.
Great to hear that the weather was reasonable and that we are back to decent Easter Meets. Very sorry that I was not able to join in. Best regards to Les, Betty, Dick, Andy et al. Gordon +Z
Yes, it was a very well supported Easter Meet. Parties were out every day in the excellent weather and snow conditions, walking and climbing on Munros, Corbetts, and Marilyns. Thanks to all attendees who made it so enjoyable. Same place and time next year? Les.
Mary and I are booked in for the meet, and at Turner Hall Farm campsite for Thursday, Fri, Sat. Seemed a good idea as it’s handy, has good facilities, and will be appreciated by Anthony and Hillary our good neighbours at the farm. Regarding High Moss history, l pulled together photos and comment on the excavation by Granville and his team of the hole for the outside water tank and the later construction of the Hobbit House. They are in a ring binder at H.M.
In 1977, l organised a club walk from H.M to Edale to celebrate the club’s Jubilee. I intend to copy reports and details of the route and add this to the above folder for your anyone interested.
Hi Bill. Please book me in on the 70th Beudy meet. As regards accommodation I’ll make my own arrangements as room in the hut ,no doubt will be at a premium. On a different note, does anyone know
the whereabouts of the Beudy Logbook for the mid to late sixties?. Best wishes to all.
I seem to recall that you and I climbed Trilon on the huts 50th anniversary, dave
I seem to recall that we climbed Trilon on Beudys 50th Anniversary, Dave
It was actually the 40th Anniversary, I’ve still got the pamphlet made for the event, I’ll bring it along Dave
Excellent do
Why not fly direct to Kos from Manchester with jet2?
Uupps
Hi Rob, I’m around on Sat, possibly Sun or Mon. Where are you thinking of? Mike Hartley
No plans yet , getting out on some trad would be nice. Just putting it out there to see if we can get a quorum together. The more the merrier.. and all that.
I’ll be at High Moss over the bank holiday weekend; if you’re venturing as far as Cumbria, I could join you. Keep me in the loop, please. I’ll be heading home on Sunday or Monday, so could perhaps hook up on the way home if that works for you.
End result:-
Saturday, Black Crag, Borrowdale. (nearly an epic)
Sunday, Trow Gill, Clapham. (dusty)
Monday, Kilnsey, Kilnsey. ( blew the last move !)
So a really great weekend.
Hi Bill/Cec i will be coming Sunday as i am playing Sat. John Warby.
Yes it is there and it’s hanging in the porch, there is also a rucksack in the porch that has now been there for about 3 weeks and is full of clothes, does anyone claim that? If so I’d suggest that you go and collect it.
Perfect weather, great BBQ, great company – how do they do it??
Many thanks to Dom and Helen for another brilliant meet.
Ian
I was there weekend after meet and it was there then…
Jez
Of course John, see you Friday night. Elizabeth
Hi Ian.
Just a point of lnformation , the Clarence pub is closed. But the King Bill is open and is just further down the road towards Tesco and the railway station.
Sorry Ian The Clarence has reopened under new ownership.
Good photos Ian
Hi John, I’m going to Masson Lee’s for around 11am tomorrow climbing with Tony (tall lad mid 30’s) ..you met him in Sicily. You’d be welcome to join us if you haven’t signed up for something else.
Jim Burton 07762332267
I have 2 and 1/2 weeks free from 9th september looking to get away till around 27th sept.Would be up for Kalymnos again or somewhere abroad.
John.
Many thanks Dom and Bill for posting such an interesting account of a superb trip
Excellent. Enjoyed reading that. You can have a ‘like’.
Good effort
Great photos…the route looks every bit as good as its reputation…well done lads
Nice one Boyz – great photos too 🙂
A wake up call on how physical caving is even on straightforward trips.
Around 4 hours underground, 3 bags of rope from my “1987 BERGER” trip seemed to work ok.!!!??? i must have a very poor imagination sense.
Hi all, if anyone is planning on driving down to Beudy on Saturday morning and has space for 1 person and 1 bike please let me know… cheers, Ed
I should say… from Manchester! Thanks!
I am looking at the cottage i stayed in January,its a 2 bed room, with kitchen, shower and all we need for self catering also there is another cottage attached below i think owned by the same lady.This looks like it may sleep 4, both places are in the town and a short walk to bars /restaurants, i have contacted her and am waiting on her reply.Have a look at GRANDMOTHERS COTTAGE Leonidio on the web.The lady who owns them is amazing she brought us fresh fruit and veg each day and greek food to heat up.I plan to fly out on 13th Feb and stay till early March.
John
Looks fantastic…
Looks a great meet Mark ( and a tough ride!). It shows how out of touch I am when I don’t recognise anyone other than you and Craig! Hope you and Jackie are well.
Louie convinced me to get my finger out and coordinate the unclaimed meet on 15th December. So … hardcastle crags national trust carpark near hebden bridge@ 09:30 for a tour of bronte country. Christmas retail opportunity in Haworth if you wish!
Hi Chris
Couldn’t get any more local for me so there will definitely be 3 of us from Hebden. See you in the craggy car park. I am guessing that will be lower car park but let me know if it’s at the top. Thanks
Lizzie
Some notes on the Wednesday Walk:
Its about 12.5 miles.
If anyone wants the GPX file of the route I’ve planned its at: WW_14-11-2018.gpx
Thanks for update Gary…I just copied what was in the Wed Walks info!
From Ray Grover re Wednesday Walk: parking by the church in Hope is quite limited, so we will start the walk from the pay and display car park which is along the main road about 150m to the west. Although the walk is not very long (about 12 miles) there will be 750m of ascent.
That’s great news!
As you may know I live on the Isle of Skye and Chair the Memorial Hut Committee/charity.
And of course am a member of the Rucksack Club. If I can be of any use before and during the meet don’t hesitate to contact me.
Charlie Harris
Further to my call I’ll post it to you, might make his Xmas, Dave
Word of warning to anyone coming to hebden bridge from the east (yes you David). There are major roadworks at mytholmroyd which are leading to delays made worse by the northern rail train strikes on Saturdays. Hope to see you there at 09:30 – rucksack club tradition mandates no waiting around for latecomers!!
Well my New Year treat came early. I have just had confirmation from the Mairie of Engins France that we have a permit for the Berger 1st–10th July 2019.Anyone interested in being on the team should let me know ASAP.I will be looking at getting a team of 15/20 people together in the next few months to go through the planning phase and organising training trips in yorkshire/derbyshire.
John Warburton.
EVERYTHING GOING TOO WELL.28 PEOPLE ARE NOW CONFIRMED ON THE TEAM, WHICH IS SPLIT BETWEEN RUCKSACK,CRAVEN & YSS CLUBS.WE HAVE BERGER VETERANS, CAVE DIVERS, RESCUE EXPERTS, RIGGERS,3 WOMEN,PHOTO EXPERTS etc.etc.ALL WE HAVE TO DO NOW IS GET ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE SAME MEETING PLACE AT THE SAME TIME,AND THE SAME CAMPSITE IN FRANCE,” on the right dates”.SIMPLE THANK GOD FOR WHAT’S APP.
It’s also being shown at Buxton Cinema on Sunday 6 January at 4.30 p.m. and Tuesday 8 at 7.30 p.m.
…and on Wed 16 Jan, 8:00pm at square chapel Halifax in the Copper Auditorium
Tickets: £7-£5
Yet to see Free Solo but can also highly recommend “Valley Uprising” on Netflix showing the history of Yosemite climbing. Heart racing stuff as well!
An excellent new President
Agreed. A great choice. Well done Dave!
Enjoy the next couple of years Dave, I’m sure you’ll do a great job.
Two top blokes
Good choice and
Wish you all the best
For the next to years dave
And thanks for all your
Hard work Keith
m&j
I am most concerned that there appears to be support for a new condition of Membership, i.e. “All applicants and existing members must be in possession of a computer or similar device capable of downloading Meetstaff.”
Mike Dent
I have not indicated this, my comment related to saving money and removing duplication
Thanks for your kinds comments – promise to do my best and hope to see you all around “out there” soon,
Keith, many thanks for all your time and effort. Dave, enjoy your time in charge!
Thanks for the kind comments ,the Rucksack Club is a cracking club ! Please look up the fabulous photos posted by Andy Tomlinson in the Photo Gallery.
Keith – Thanks for your commitment and ‘Presidency with a smile’, although no doubt it was demanding at time. It is shame that Keith T. was not around to see you make such a success of the position… he would have certainly been proud. Hoping to get out on the hills more frequently and become more involved with the Club when time and distance allow.
Great photos of the double, I love those ponies!
Good luck Dave.
Great work thanks Bill
Excellent idea, hope it works well and can soon be rolled out to all 3 huts, from A.N. Other Llewellyn!
Pete,
I have a 1:30,000 map Kranska Gora, issued by turisticna karma obmocja a few year’s ago, showing some 12K south of KG i.e. including Prisank and Skrlatica. Happy to lend it to you if you wish – I can post it unless you are joining a Wednesday Walk sometime.
Gavin Young
Brilliant logistics Steve!
Sounds fun but I’m running a hill skills course in the peak..
A few other club members are also running. Myself, Jim Paxman, The Rippon Brothers Simon and Tim…to name just a few.. 3 different teams..any one else.
How did they all get on? Although it was a bit misty, it was not a hostile night as enjoyed by RC teams in the past.
The race was won by Haggis on Tour which included Jasmin Paris, the winner of the recent Spine Race up the PW. Their time was 8.32.42. They were all well under 40. It was a delight to talk to her.
Rucksack Club-Because Geoff Said So ( Helen has a wicked sense of humour ) were 21st in 11.45.33, and 12th Vets team AND 2nd Mixed Vets team when their age allowance of 8 mins/hr is applied. Well done you guys!
Our trophy ( made by JR ) for the fastest Vets team was won by Sanatogen Pirates led by our Jim Paxman with 3 non -RC team members. They were 27th in 12.09.33, but with the allowance of 20 mins/hr they won.
Similarly, Bambis Gone With the Wind led by our Ian Winterburn, were 6th in 9.49.41 and 5th Vets.
Simon and Tim Rippon and Kev Saville and their non-member A Wainwright had to retire.
I don’t know of any other RC participants.
Let’s see what we can do next year!
Thanks for all your hard work Dom…a great ‘sun rock’ meet, despite some cold weather…definitely somewhere to return for longer. Andy
Andy, Helen, just wanted you to know I enjoyed that. That bloke Rae has exhausted me in the hills a few times Helen. I hope you are doing the same to him! Jim.
FREE SOLO THE FILM!!! IN CASE YOU HAVN’T SEEN IT ITS ON CHANNEL 4 THURSDAY 23RD MAY.9PM
DON’T MISS THIS AMAZING PIECE OF CLIMBING HISTORY.
You can wild camp in Scotland pretty much anywhere. By-laws and certain restrictions apply, and you should follow the good practice code.
In England, Wales and Northern Ireland you can’t legally wild camp without the consent of the landowner, apart from on Dartmoor where you can wild camp legally as in Scotland.
It appears to me that the wild camp site website is a website selling ‘wild camping’ pitches in fields without facilities where the landowner has agreed to camping.
I had some one tell me whilst on a Gold DofE expedition in the lakes we were illegally camping at angle tarn. Technically that may be true but since the Mountain Training Association run regular ML MIA MIC courses including wild camping in National parks excluding Peak District I cant see it as an issue for responsible campers. Leave No trace, camp high, pack up early.
Looks like someone’s “bright idea” for making money to me! The domain (UKwildcamp.org) is registered to GoDaddy; buried in the site’s T&Cs it says … The Bridge Strategy (trading as UKWildCamp.org) …
Suspect the ‘spin’ on the website is just that.
Coincidence? but last Tuesday I was contacted by BBC Radio Sheffield to talk on a feature about camping and I was interviewed on Wild camping as I run intro to WC and hill skill courses.
These ‘OnThe Hill ‘ articles are really good Andy . This latest one from Brian makes me feel as though I’ve not tried hard enough! Full marks for a full life Brian -so far.
It looks as if pressure has stopped this – look at the Telegraph page on the web. It was obviously an initiative to soften us up for paying in the national parks – so keep vigilant, communicate and don’t let it happen.
Hi all,
Todays BMC news shows they are also onto this initiative – so if they and us keep up the pressure it will protect our rights.
Looking forward to the 80@80! Talking of Club Legends, Brian, you clearly make the cut 🙂 Cheers, Dom
Can I echo Cec’s comment. I’ve enjoyed ‘Being on the Hill’ with the protagonists. And Brian, I knew you had done loads – just keep going! Jim.
What can you say? Another excellent meet with the weather pre-booked to provide sunshine on both days! Many thanks to Dom and everybody who made it a memorable weekend.
Thanks Pete. I remember it well.
I’ve heard about Geoff’s exploits – even as a callow member! I’ve missed being at the Tour this year with my bike. The first time in quite a few years. When I cycled to the Dolomites meet a few years ago I was with a friend Mike Murray (champion orienteer) and going up the Timmelsjoch into Italy we were being overtaken by all these lycra clad guys on flash bikes. Mike got fed up with it and set off with panniers flapping and overtook a lot of them on his old mountain bike before the top. They weren’t happy! I’ve just cycled from Santander to Caen but suspect I took rather longer than Geoff in his heyday, or even now.
I’ll come on a Tour meet Pete and happy to help organise. Enjoy the Black Forest.
Good luck guys – looking forward to hearing all about it!
Cheers, Dom
Have a great trip…certainly looking ready for some hauling!
VERCORS AUTUMN SUN ROCK UPDATE.THE DATES WE ARE GOING ARE NOW 20TH—26TH OCTOBER.3 OF US HAVE BOOKED FLIGHTS TO LYON AND WE HAVE AUBERGE ACCOMMODATION IN PRESLES WE NEED A 4TH PERSON TO COMPLETE THE TEAM. PRESLES IS A 200M SOUTH FACING CRAG WITH PLENTY OF SINGLE AND MULTI PITCH ROUTES ALL BOLTED.THERE ARE ALSO LOTS OF OTHER CRAGS IN THE AREA TO CHOOSE FROM. John Warby.
Wow Helen that’s fantastic, what an amazing achievement
Great stuff Helen!
Geoff
Great news John…thanks for this. Hope you have a good turnout tonight at Stockport!
Brilliant achievement Julie, it really is fantastic and Mike well done for the Ramsey Round too
John…I can recommend a very good physio in Congleton, but don’t have any ideas closer to Manchester. She is not a climber, but is very interested in all sporting activities…I have seen her before and she understands the issues climbers worry about/seek treatment for. If you need more details, contact via details in Handbook. Andy
Mike Hartley is an inspiration to anyone who knows him. He is the epitome of a genuine Rucksack Club legend – modest to a fault, great sense of humour and with an amazing record of achievements across a huge variety of sports.
The indoor meet on Tuesday night was both interesting and entertaining. Plenty of sensible advice from Tim the physio. I’m clearly missing out by not attending the indoor meets on a regular basis. Well done Ellie and all the other members like Nettie and Andy who take the time to organise the indoor meets.
Thanks for your kind comments, Liz. The next lectures are on 12th November Tom Livingstone; 3rd December William Rupp and Felix Terrell on climbing in Madagascar; and Martin Boysen on 11th February. Poster coming soon….
Really good video…. Wow a hard days night… ????????
Fifty years ago, I’m sure I remember feeling rarther pleased with myself haveing done an
easier route on The Ben. How times have changed as they always do. Well Done Dave.
There are lots of maps for Bulgaria now.
See http://www.mapsofbalkan.com/shop/index.php/cPath/22_23 for 56 maps
The main series is Domino. See eg http://www.stanfords.co.uk/Bulgaria-Domino-Hiking-Maps_SI00001682
There is also a series from Kartografija, http://www.cartographia-bg.net, or available from maps of Balkans above
For guidebooks
Walking in Bulgaria’s national parks, Julian Perry, Cicerone covers Rila Pirin Stara Planina
The mountains of Bulgaria,. Julian Perry, Cordee (out of print I think)
Kom-Emine, path along the main Stara Planina mountain ridge, http://www.oilaripi.com
Skiing the Balkans, Dimitar Dimitrov, http://www.xcoports.com covers Rila Pirin and Vitosha
Alex Miller. (I live in Austria)
Climbing guides to a couple of areas in Bulgaria, Slovenia & Croatia you’d be welcome to borrow. Check out https://rockaroundtheworld.co.uk/category/eastern-europe/ for more inspiration 🙂
Andy – thanks for passing this on, a must read and act upon particularly for the over 65’s.
Owen
Thanks Andy, that’s very useful and thought-provoking. I shall feel postively virtuous having an egg for breakfast this weekend!
Andrew
Yes, it official…eggs are once again good for us!
Great idea Andy.Brilliant pictures.
Well done Andy and everybody else for some great routes and photo’s.
A great compilation.
Mike Bloody Hartley ! When I first met him years ago I was amazed at his running achievements . I knew I could never get anywhere near his ability on the fells- and such a nice chap . But of course a little voice said – He may be good at that but he’s not done anything in Yosemite has he .? Well he just turned his attention to big walls and proved he was up to that as well. Mike Harley – exactly as described by Brian .
Great effort Dom ,John ,Mel and all contributors. Looks really good. Rob
Good to view photos of the Alps and beyond – always favorites with me. Has anyone bought the Tibbetts book ‘Alpenglow’? Fifty quid well spent!
Hi John, I got the book for my birthday its the best book on the 4000 peaks to date, memories of Brian Cosbys fantastic lecture!!
Hi Dave I too bought Tibbetts book and have written a review for RCJ. He was at Kendal Mountain Festival with a ‘slide’ show. Such a volume should be on every Alpinist’s shelf. What an incredible effort to produce, without a publisher, from crowdfunding! He and his partner sure have energy.
Just find this hard to believe, such a great character he will be sadly missed, RIP Alf
I can’t imagine a world without Alf. My heart goes out to Jean and his family.
Hello folks
Peter Standing, medical doctor, met up with a few of us rock climbers of the 1960’s/70’s. Among routes that I did with him was Crucible at Cwm Silyn on a swift day visit from Manchester. I have not recorded the date of our visit, probably mid 1970’s because we travelled in one of a succession of my Triumph Vitesses. He had a day off, the route had a bit of a reputation, was on both of our tick lists and so we had to do it.
This is brilliant. Well done Andy. And many thanks.
Many thanks for providing me with the opportunity to have a free helicopter ride with you – seems like only yesterday!
Best wishes
WARBYS WELSH WEEKEND MAY 1.2.3. 2020. BEUDY MAWR.
This will be a themed weekend of climbing Joe Browns routes in either the PASS or on CLOGGY weather allowing,so get out the guide books and start looking.Just remember there are NOT MANY of his climbs in the VS range so being competent on HVS–E2 is needed.For every route completed i want to donate £5.00 to CLIMB AGAINST CANCER so thats £2.50 each team member
if climbing as a team of 2.Food on Saturday night i will arrange for both meat /vegetarians.
I will make a list of the routes i know so teams can choose their climb.
John
Brilliant GPS, I’ve used one for years. Easy as pie to use. Check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqRPBm1nzo0 for the basics.
Sad news re Peter Roberts, the Munro’s 3 times, phew!
I remember being in Beudy, with son Nick, when Peter was plastering the long (roadside) wall of the drying room. He had us mixing plaster for him. We couldn’t mix it fast enough! A real craftsman.
John Russell
If you click on the link you get the poster. See you there!!
any idea when the Newfield is due to re-open?
Bill – Maybe the club should consider taking professional advice on its comms strategy, including a look at the website. Just a thought. Chris
Hi Bill
I’d be interested in Extreme Alpine Rock, offer £45. Cheers Dave
Really enjoyed your “On the Hill With” piece Gerry.
Filled with envy that you’re still managing to ski. I’ve had to stop that particular activity – I just had about five hundred falls too many.
Also, deep respect for successfully piloting the ‘going mixed’ motion through the AGM (or was it an EGM, yes probably).
I too had been strongly in favour of the movement towards being fully openly mixed for quite a few years. As I recall the majority of Meets in the Club Handbook bore the prefix (L was it? for Ladies invited. How condescending is that?) which I feel sure eased progress towards what you triumphantly achieved. Good on You!!
A very wise decision.
We are in “lock down” here in Chamonix. Everything not essential to life is closed. The borders with Switzerland and Italy are closed. It’s the same in Austria and Spain.
Watching the numbers the UK is only a few days, may be a week, behind us in terms of infection rates.
On the bright side I can still go ski mountaineering straight from my garden gate. The pistes are abandoned, the mountains empty of people: “Social Isolation” on skis 🙂
I’m interested to know the rationale for this decision. For those of us who can’t ski from our back door, access to the huts and mountains would be valuable for our mental health. If people choose to avoid them, they can; personally I would like to think that if I’m healthy, I could make use of them.
Rachel – I see what you are saying. However (and this is a personal opinion), I think the Club has a duty of care towards its Members and other users of the huts . We would be remiss in saying that business is as usual in these volatile and potentially life threatening times. I support the decision to close the huts and hope that the situation improves soon.
Hi Bill
I think we all have a duty of care for ourselves and others. I don’t think the club needs to do it for us.
I just hope campsites don’t make the same decision!
Rachel
Ps. I can understand why it might be wise to cancel all hut meets – shared dormitories etc – but not why it’s necessary to close them to individual use, when it’s quite rare to meet anyone else there.
As you can tell, I’m really upset about this decision. I wonder what others think?
Great job Neil! One of the few consolations of dashing home early from Spain is to arrive to the new Journal on the doormat!
Cheers, Dom
John Payne deserves credit as well!
Very good to read your interview. Though I don’t aspire to any hypothetical list of rock/ice ‘to-dos’ anymore, it is still possible to enjoy reading about other people’s attempts and lists. I have about twenty Corbetts in my head as possible in order to complete that list, but even living in Scotland does not make it easy. And now we are all tied to home-style fitness regimes because of the black cloud of con…s. At least it is not nuclear, and might disperse before 2021. So from your base in Cornwall, best of luck, and get permission for a few more days up on the Ben.
Great post Andy, I turned back on it in 1962 no faith in a jammed not runner. Two years later turned back on another great route when I lost my “Shibboleth” My mate Stan said we have turned back on the best climbs in Britain. Still not done them!!
Ups it was not a nut it was a Knot!!!
Excellent presentation last night – really enjoyed it and seeing everyone. Huge thanks to Dom (and the dodgy one in the shades) for organising and presenting.
Thanks Boece and Dave – I was really glad that people seemed to enjoy the evening (and amazed that so many overcame the technology hurdles – I think we had over 130 people joining in the fun!)
A few people have asked who the geezer in the shades was – obviously, the budget wouldn’t cover getting The Real Bill Deakin along for the evening, so I roped in Roland Rat as a stand in (not John Cooper Clarke, although you were close, Chris – he was my standby option).
Anyway, the magic of the evening for me was seeing so many familiar faces in these ‘social distancing’ times, and getting a real feel of Rucksack Club camaraderie, so thanks to everyone for your company.
If you experienced technical or other challenges getting into the meeting, drop me a note and I’ll try to provide some guidance ahead of next week’s event. Talking of which, watch this space for a schedule (we’re already making progress into May for volunteers) and get in touch if you’d like to do a slot of some kind.
Cheers, Dom
I would like to do a talk on my Gouffre Berger Exped 2019 but need help with all the tech stuff.
John
I did SHIBBOLETH with Mike Ryan and the late Dave Booth around 2012 what a route, we did the TRUE FINISH which puts it up a grade, sharing leads it is the hardest trad route i have ever done in Scotland. Amazing lead by Robin Smith with the gear he would have had or not!!,even with a modern rack its still no pushover.
Great article Sam. Glad you are still catching those waves. Rob Ferguson
Sam its a great read, it gives me itchy feet! anyway a high camp in my garden tonight to support the NHS endeavours ! regards Jim Schofield
Brilliant indoor meet thanks for organising Dom
Yes pal a great story i still remember us doing BOW WALL with you leading the 2nd pitch out into space,also with you and Phil Thompson doing EROICA at Pentire.I was looking through some old pics recently and there’s one of you on Bastille crack in Eldo canyon Colorado ,we must have done that also.Not been back to cornwall since we all met up with Mike Ryan Joe Flynn and Chris Heard a couple of years ago. I remember staying in that luxury caravan of yours a couple of times and not forgetting the famous SKEWJACK aka screwjack with Harvey the local surfer god.Will deffo get down and see you once all this lock down stuff has finished. John
Andy T many thanks for your hard work on the website with the feeds etc.
Jez 🙂
Well done John. I am glad that I never got involved in your early walks.
I learnt a valuable lesson on a dinner walk up Snowden about 10 years ago: you taught me to be polite and pull over as a faster came up behind, and catch my breath.
Thanks John
Sorry, Brenva face more round to the right of the photo.
Nice pictures a good reminder. There’s more snow evident than when I did it – sometime in the 80s. It was icy in the narrows. It’s a good classic, well worth the effort. Unfortunately. all my pictures are slides which are detriorating.
We bivvied at the bergsrund the night before. Grade is similar to the NNE Butress of the Chardonnet but a little easier.
Thanks Andy – loving the classic articles. This Jeffcoat quote: note in red ink alongside the “Lantern Slides” read “Did not take place – no gas” – reminds me to check we’ve got enough gas for tomorrow’s virtual meet!
Cheers, Dom
Geoff is an inspiration to many of us and a real Club legend.
Doesn’t breaking your seat pin and wanting to continue out of the saddle on one of my Tour de France disorganised trips count as a mishap – thanks to a bit of trespass and taking down some metal fencing we found a suitable bolt to fix your bike.
Whilst on about cycling i also remember the Wall at Grimont when a young whippersnapper rode past you and in the blink of an eye you were after him with saddlebags swinging and taking him just before the top – he looked distraught but the English contingent were well chuffed and you did get a round of applause from the locals.
As I remember it Geoff was still shifting pretty well at the end of the double double. Gill and I had seen John Crummett going strong and as the light was failing offered Geoff a bit of navigational fine tuning over to Edale.
Talking of being a bit spent:I was told that at the end of the North Wales Horseshoe ( the Welsh 3000s then 100 hilly miles) apart from hallucinations Geoff had lost the power of speech to the extent that he couldn’t order a round of drinks in Bodfari!
He doesn’t give up easy and the best of companions.
What a great guy! We shared a host of days ‘On the Hill’ – not least the classic Winter Tan Hill Cat and Fiddle which was, perhaps inadvertently triggered by Geoff.
As I recall we (Geoff, Mike Cudahy, myself and possibly Ted Dance) were out on an important training run for the HPM when Geoff made a very serious allegation: “This Club’s getting soft” he challenged. We need to take on something serious like the Tan Hill to Cat and Fiddle in Winter. I had completed such a venture a few years previously along with Stan Bradshaw and Dennis Weir –– and we had been gently but correctly criticised by no less a luminary than Phil Brockbank for taking an easy line around Bleaklow. So, I was very keen to put things right.
It took two attempts. The first took place in endless rain and flood which eventually, well into the second night, turned to heavy sleety rainy snow. We reached Todmorden – nearly.
The second attempt was well worth waiting for. Snow during the first night, a diabolically hard second day then a gloriously tough day three from Crowden through to the finish the memory of which is still very much with me. Geoff done good! really good! And I’ll always thank him for goading me into doing it.
Also enjoyed many a cycle ride through the Franch Alps and Pyrenees with Geoff.
Great Days – What a Guy!
Yes I had a couple of pairs of these. Improved my climbing, but they didn’t last long. The metal eyelets used to rust and the sharp edges made the laces snap. I used to remove the eyelets with a pair of long nose pliers.
Brilliant! This is what the Rucksack Club is all about. Wish I’d been there…
Andy…thanks for the Post…I remember it well and, from this distance fondly [most of the pain is forgotten], though I still remember someone suggesting I might be cheating as I took ibuprofen at the Outer Edge stop (what me?!) and, after this, JR commenting on the way I hobbled over stiles despite my drug supplementation!!
Magnificent Brokenspectre: top of NE Buttress after damp misty start, about noon with cloud still in the Coire. Iceing on the cake: descending Coire Leis there is a spot where the sun is directly behind the apex of the NE Buttress & gives a perfect halo of Newtons rings. September 1969.
“Working for Petrol Money”. Yes, in my first proper job at one stage I was reduced to working out how much I was paid for each step. 10 miles or more in dense thicket, especially thorn thicket, can be deadly boring. But then, who wants excitement when the options include navigational error leaving you walking away from your vehicle, or sharing a convenient path with a rhino or elephant. Yes, boring was good but rewarding.
Thanks for uploading this Ged – a great watch!
There’s at least one other Rucksack Club member featured – fast forward to 18:40mins and see if you recognise another former President 🙂
Cheers, Dom
The one and only Rob Ferguson ( and Dave Crutch). Also includes Phil Burke, a brilliant runner and climber that I was at school with!
I found it a great watch as well!
I think the top one is giants hole, second not sure but possibly p8 or carlswark
I wonder if I may reminisce about the Karrimor? 1988 was the 21st anniversary of the event and was held in the Cheviots. I completed a number around that time. There is a YouTube film for that year also and again John and Mike feature. I was an orienteer with Guildford Orienteers who could run a bit as was my partner Alun Jones of TVOC. We did the Score course, just a long one in those days, as it meant we were not in a long file and could chose a route to suit us. We had a piece of string the length of which corresponded to the distance we reckoned we could do in the time available and we laid this around the controls available to plan the optimum route.
Day One was fine and bright and we did ok, nothing special. Day Two was raining and the mist was down. Our best option we thought was to go a mile or two north from the overnight camp and directly away from the finish. Quite bold we thought at the time. We were going well and the navigation was great. Approaching the finish we decided we could get an extra control which we duly did but we hadn’t reckoned on how high the hill with the final control was. The upshot was we finished in a breathless heap with 20 seconds to spare. How close can you get?!
There were prizes for the 21st finishers on each course. We were 22nd and the finishers immediately in front of us had supposedly done a quite impossible course. Protests were to no avail! And the final upset was we failed to pick up an easy control early on which we passed within 50 yards of and whose additional score would have enable us to beat our club aces. Both have rankled ever since!
Geoff, the PBP brings back lots of memories. In this lockdown I have been sorting my photos, I have a some of you and me on PBP. I remember we didn’t set off together, but we met at the first checkpoint (about 200k). I remember suffering heat exhaustion and you kindly soaking a spare hat you had in water for me… and do you remember, when you’d stopped for a pee in the bushes, 50k from the finish, a frenchman on his phone to his wife saying he was giving up because his bum was stripped raw. I tried to persuade him to finish the remaining 50k, but he’d had enough.
Funny the things one remembers!
It is indeed Giant’s Hole and it is a young John Warburton circa 1965!
Lovely photos Tom…inspiration to spend winter nights at High Moss…as and when we can!
Thanks Andy, It was a great day. One of the perks being warden of High Moss
The usual Ryanair response. I think they are in breach of UK law and as the flight was booked in the OK and stared and the return ends in the UK, the governing law is UK. It might also be the case that the EU has viwed it differently. Go to the small claims court, that seems to be the only way with Ryanair. They won’t go bust, they’ve just declared 2BN euro profit for last year. I never use them unless there is no option.
sorry for the mis types! Your journey should have started in the UK, should have ended in the UK and was booked in the UK (even though it’s an internet booking).
I have refunds from EasyJet for our 4 people return flights with no hassle and GeoffG got a full refund from Sixt(?) for our car hire.
They won’t pay compensation, but they do need to refund cancelled flights and are breaking the law by trying to fob people off with vouchers. I got my money back by disputing the payment through my credit card company and requesting a chargeback. They need evidence that you have tried contacting Ryanair directly, but it was fairly quick and easy so I’d recommend it if you paid by credit card. More info here:
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2020/04/ryanair-customers-sent–round-in-circles–as-they-continue-to-tr/
Feel free to email me if you want a copy of the form I sent in. Good luck!
I cancelled a couple of work flights with Ryanair and was offered a voucher rather than a refund (see text below):
“You have recently received an email with a voucher code to the value of your original booking. Please note that this voucher is valid for 12 Months and can be used for your future travel plans, please note that if you do not use the voucher the voucher before the expiry date you will receive a full cash refund, in the event you use the voucher in part you will also receive the option of a voucher for the balance or a cash refund after the expire date.”
Whilst I do believe that passengers have the right to a refund, the voucher seems like a reasonable way to help the airlines manage cashflow (whether Ryanair is particularly deserving of this consideration is another question!)
We have succeeded in making a s.75 claim for cancelled British Airways flights from San Diego to Manchester early in April. We had booked them through an agency called Travelup that had the best price on Skyscanner when we booked the flights in Sept 2019. After BA cancelled the flights, BA said our recourse had to be via the agent, not through BA direct. Travelup said they would only give us vouchers. After 7 weeks from making our claim, which was easy to do, Amex paid up in full. Excellent credit card service, in our experience.
there is an article in today’s Guardian by a barrister specialising in travel law. Here’s the link
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/may/22/frustrated-contracts-law-holiday-refunds-coronavirus
The front cover of ” Rock for Climbing” showing C.D Milner Our President 56/7 in the Dolomites.
I should have said It’s a photo of C.D milner from his book “Rock for Climbing”. I had a copy
when I was a youngster but it never had dust wrapper. Cheers All, Stay Safe.
It is indeed in the Dolomites and it is a Past President, but it’s actually Alec Ferguson on a trip with Johann Demetz and the photo was taken by Ken Davidson. Alec is climbing The Adang Kamin, proudly sporting Timpsons’ boots which according to the leaflet cost 51 shillings and 9 pence!
Hi Brian can i come over and have a look, i have just started doing some rides,will it suit an old beginner.
John.
I’ve had another look at this, closer in on the original photo, and it looks like the part immediately right of the fallen bit has a gap behind it and could go at any time. I’ve never been there, and I don’t advise going. I have sent the photo to the BMC. The photo in Western Grit doesn’t really show this part, Smiler’s Corner.
There seem to be two routes that have gone, Echantillon and Upset, if that is right it could have been a lot worse.
John, what time of year is this planned? I would like to express an interest in going.
Thanks, George
Brilliant effort guys, well done. Jealous!!
Awesome!
Those are 2 incredible days out! Very exciting and confident enough to take a film of it as well! Matt looks even more like you now Andy. Thanks for sharing.
Ah…I wondered when the family connection would be rumbled! Unfortunately I don’t have the skiing ability…I’m not sure many do. I am reliably informed it is very hard touring with a bike strapped to your back…the ultra light-weight ‘Ski-Mo’ skis they use don’t help with stability either!
Eddie, Jean, I have a copy of Rock for Climbing and the photo you refer to Eddie is the frontispiece. In it the climber is about two feet lower than the climber above. You can see all the same rock details clearly. In the text of the book there is a photo of a climber coming towards the camera on the end of a rope at the exact same spot which is captioned “A traverse from the Adang Kamin”. Apologies if you know all this! But just in case.
Thanks Jim, that’s really interesting as I’ve not got that book.
Anyone interested in making it a joint cycling meet? I don’t know the area and it sounds good.
Hi Mike
1 Dave Sinclair
2 ?
3 Big Al – much missed
4 Paul Rigg
5 Bruce Goodwin
Happy days
Hi Owen
Well done – 2. Is Ian Tattersall ( Tat) Also much missed. Tragically killed paragliding after giving up Himalayan climbing to reduce his risk exposure!
Happy days indeed! The photos of Riggy and Bruce were taken at Sennen when we visited you I think. Regards Mike
Many thanks for reminding us of this article and subject Jean. (written 10 years before the mass tresspass on Kinder). It is certainly still an important subject now, as there are many signs that many landowners are increasingly lobbying to reduce access. The Ramblers are very right to stress the importance of clarifying rights of way before the 2016 deadline. Even now, there are far too many cases where public footpaths clearly defined on the OS maps have been blocked or horenously diverted by moneyed newcomers buying up old farms. Some o fthe latest maps have more and more of those dotted green stretches, implying access disputed. There is an interesting case with the Relative Hill Society that has a UK database listing all hill points of a certain height and prominence, where the landowner is trying to insist that the entry be removed from the database.
I do not believe that Andy Kirkpatrick’s views on mental health, race, Islam or women fulfill The Rucksack Club purpose to “encourage mountaineering, climbing and hillwalking and to bring together all those who are interested in these pursuits.” As such, I am disappointed to see The Club promoting a presentation with him included. That the Alpine Club may wish to promote such an individual is a matter for their own ethics and purpose, I do not however support our club in such promotion.
Hi Lewis
You are absolutely right that The Rucksack Club aspires to “…bring together ALL those who are interested in these pursuits.”
With that in mind, I’ve set up a JustGiving page to support Urban Uprising – a charity focused on enabling young people from diverse backgrounds to have the opportunities that we’ve all had, to get involved in the outdoors and climbing. In their words: Elevating and Inspiring Young People Through Climbing.
See the latest ‘Virtual Slideshow’ post for more details. It would be great if you could support and share the link: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/dominic-oughton
Cheers, Dom
Hi Dom,
thanks very much for that. I’ve duly donated to such a good cause.
Cheers,
Lewis
Nice one Lewis! Thanks 🙂
I also got my refund from easyJet by using Resolver. Just takes time.
Excellent ‘ On the Hill ‘ feature from John Allen . Much of it familiar to many of his contemporaries in the club . Thanks John- my climbing activity roundup would be very similar but not quite as varied !
Superb photographs, I’ve seen them before but great to see them again and be reminded what a memorable expedition you all had.
I think the latest meetstaff is one of the best I have ever seen and reflects the strength and depth of the Rucksack Club in these difficult times. I would like to thank Andrew Beckett for putting together this bumper edition.
Dom…thanks for highlighting some of the incredible achievements of Eustace Thomas. After all he did in the UK mountains he started to visit the Alps in 1923 (aged 54) where, over 10 years he completed all the 4000m peaks…he thought he’d completed them in 1928, but the the Diable Ridge has been climbed adding more, so he took part in the 3rd ascent of this ridge in 1932, completing the then ‘list’ aged 63. He was the first Brit to achieve this and only the 4th or 5th person in total! More to appear on Eustace Thomas soon in the Classic Article series!
Has anyone noticed there are only thirteen 3000s referred to? Pen yr Ole Wen is missing!
I’m certain that when I returned it to Chris Foster on the Sunday afternoon of his meet, my plan had been to return it to Bill Deakin, from whom I had received it. However the weather being poor most people had left for home, Bill amongst them. So I asked Chris to pass it on to him personally. I do hope it turns up, Please keep me informed.
Hi Mark
I’ve emailed you – just let me know your mobile phone number and I’ll sort it ASAP 🙂
Thanks for the prompt – I’ve been meaning to put a post on here to see if anyone else wants to sign up.
Cheers, Dom
Hi Dom
Please add me to the climbing app.
My mobile number is 07796340448
Cheers, Chris Wilkshire
Hi Chris
Sorry for the delay – only just spotted this. You’re in 🙂
Cheers, Dom
Bill & Steve, this is really positive stuff. I would be really keen on pitching a tent on Beudy lawn as I’m sure lots of other members are. Cheers. Paul.
B & S
FRCC huts are all open with restricted numbers for members only.
Could do the same at Beudy and Craigallan, max 6 persons , 3 in each room.
You could actually end up with more folk using the toilet area, with camping and Van’s outside.
Or allow tents, vans ,but stick to max 6 in total
Great idea.
Lots of campsites have simply restricted use of loos/showers to 1 person at a time. With requirement to clean showers after every use.
1 out, 1 in, to the block through the outside door.
That means that you could restrict close contact indoors, while outdoors campers can be responsible for themselves.
I think that sharing the indoor space is more difficult. Strangers will be sharing space for much longer and closer that “casual contact” in shops etc.
At the moment it is overly presumptuous to ask unrelated strangers to share living space with people they haven’t chosen to share with, even if it is permissible. Indoor space should only be booked by people who have actively chosen to share with each other for considerable periods of time i.e. overnight.
Hi All. Any members who would like to camp at Pen yr allt Fm, GR SH: 769 624 over the B/h
weekend (Ltd flat ground) would be most welcome. Facilities available. First come first served. Max tents 3. A modest donation in aid of St Davids Hospice would be appreciated.
Eddie – great idea! Hope you get lots of takers. Bill PS Belated birthday greetings!
Response to statement: Covid 19 update, Wednesday 5th August 2020.
Following this update, I interpret the last statement ‘We need time and imagination to devise efficient ways to resolve these challenging issues‘as my invitation to give a constructive comment.
My main request is that we have a debate, committee led with an agreed agenda, via Zoom (very successfully used with the recent lectures).
My overriding observation is this; many of us have had to work with Specific or Generic Risk Assessment, for many years and may have much to contribute. Also, in my opinion, I believe that we have to prepare for the micro management of our particular environments.
I am also of the opinion that the club should not rely on Governing Bodies as their sole source of way forward; theirs is, inevitably, a cautious response to Government Guidance.
From the legal perspective, there appear to be concerns about litigation from Covid19 claims against the Club (Committee position on re-opening huts, 09/07/20). The BMC Insurers position is this:
“The combined liability policy arranged by the BMC for the protection of clubs and club committee members does not include an exclusion related to COVID-19. This means that if someone was to bring a claim against a club, or club committee member, alleging they had contracted coronavirus at a club event or club hut, the policy would respond to defend the club/committee member and, if legally required, pay compensation to the limit of indemnity. It is expected that all clubs will take reasonable steps to manage the risk of COVID-19 within club huts and at their events by following BMC and government guidance. We strongly recommend that risk assessments are carried out and documented by clubs in order to evidence the steps that have been taken, for the protection of the club in the event that a claim is made.”
Source: BMC Website.
There are means of indicating and entering into the spirit of non-litigation that all climbers and mountaineers will be familiar with; ‘Responsible User Declarations, are already evident in many other forms of activity and venue usage.
I can supply a statement required currently by the French Government for travellers. This is simply a sample of a declaration of user responsibility that could be used to further mitigate concerns.
Many declarations could be cherry picked, to create a template complimenting our situation.
Whilst recognising that any such statements or ‘waivers’ cannot actually be used to prevent possible litigation, should someone be that way inclined, the Insurer statement above should assuage the fears of the Committee.
From professional experience I know that the evaluation of a Court, considering apportioning blame, would include whether the Defendant had kept up to date Risk Assessments, User Guidance and contingency measures, onsite and available to participants to read or use.
Whatever direction this virus is taking, it is up to us to work to manage it and not be governed by it.
Many of us will have recently used or seen facilities that are accommodating large numbers of people. I am sure that our membership can work with and follow environment specific guidance. We could also approach other clubs for an evaluation of current best practice. It is noteworthy that many climbing walls are now open for business using ABC and BMC guidance.
Prior to sending this comment I received, as many of us did, the latest update and proposition for Beudy Mawr. I hope for a great positive response to that request but there must be many of you, like myself, that are thinking the content of, 12th July update-Committee position on re-opening huts, 09/07/20, has been turned on its head.
Through discussion, let us try to manage the issues that we are faced with. I am sure that our Club has a vast amount of experience that can be called upon.
Our valued Committee Members should not have to shoulder this burden alone.
Sorry, I posted this to the wrong item.
Response to statement: Covid 19 update, Wednesday 5th August 2020.
Following this update, I interpret the last statement ‘We need time and imagination to devise efficient ways to resolve these challenging issues‘as my invitation to give a constructive comment.
My main request is that we have a debate, committee led with an agreed agenda, via Zoom (very successfully used with the recent lectures).
My overriding observation is this; many of us have had to work with Specific or Generic Risk Assessment, for many years and may have much to contribute. Also, in my opinion, I believe that we have to prepare for the micro management of our particular environments.
I am also of the opinion that the club should not rely on Governing Bodies as their sole source of way forward; theirs is, inevitably, a cautious response to Government Guidance.
From the legal perspective, there appear to be concerns about litigation from Covid19 claims against the Club (Committee position on re-opening huts, 09/07/20). The BMC Insurers position is this:
“The combined liability policy arranged by the BMC for the protection of clubs and club committee members does not include an exclusion related to COVID-19. This means that if someone was to bring a claim against a club, or club committee member, alleging they had contracted coronavirus at a club event or club hut, the policy would respond to defend the club/committee member and, if legally required, pay compensation to the limit of indemnity. It is expected that all clubs will take reasonable steps to manage the risk of COVID-19 within club huts and at their events by following BMC and government guidance. We strongly recommend that risk assessments are carried out and documented by clubs in order to evidence the steps that have been taken, for the protection of the club in the event that a claim is made.”
Source: BMC Website.
There are means of indicating and entering into the spirit of non-litigation that all climbers and mountaineers will be familiar with; ‘Responsible User Declarations, are already evident in many other forms of activity and venue usage.
I can supply a statement required currently by the French Government for travellers. This is simply a sample of a declaration of user responsibility that could be used to further mitigate concerns.
Many declarations could be cherry picked, to create a template complimenting our situation.
Whilst recognising that any such statements or ‘waivers’ cannot actually be used to prevent possible litigation, should someone be that way inclined, the Insurer statement above should assuage the fears of the Committee.
From professional experience I know that the evaluation of a Court, considering apportioning blame, would include whether the Defendant had kept up to date Risk Assessments, User Guidance and contingency measures, onsite and available to participants to read or use.
Whatever direction this virus is taking, it is up to us to work to manage it and not be governed by it.
Many of us will have recently used or seen facilities that are accommodating large numbers of people. I am sure that our membership can work with and follow environment specific guidance. We could also approach other clubs for an evaluation of current best practice. It is noteworthy that many climbing walls are now open for business using ABC and BMC guidance.
Prior to sending this comment I received, as many of us did, the latest update and proposition for Beudy Mawr. I hope for a great positive response to that request but there must be many of you, like myself, that are thinking the content of, 12th July update-Committee position on re-opening huts, 09/07/20, has been turned on its head.
Through discussion, let us try to manage the issues that we are faced with. I am sure that our Club has a vast amount of experience that can be called upon.
Our valued Committee Members should not have to shoulder this burden alone.
Yes, let’s get stuck in, so that we can once again “Get Out There!”
“ Climb if you will, but remember that courage and strength are nought without prudence…
Edward Whymper etc
Hi Eddie
Brilliant that Alison and Jonathon are interested in joining the Club. I’m afraid I haven’t bumped into them, but I’m sure that anyone who did would be delighted to propose and second their membership. It might be worth posting in the Facebook group and also pinging an email direct to anyone who met them – I’m sure you’ll get the support 🙂
Alternatively (or as well) we’re holding occasional ad hoc gatherings of climbers (not official meets of course!) so if they’d be interested (and are local enough) they’d be very welcome to turn up and tie on (in a covid-complaint and socially distanced way). Just put them in touch. Cheers, Dom
Carol
Sarah myself and the two boys; Aaron and Josh will high (low) camping in the lounge tonight….
Jez 🙂 😉
Nice one Nick- perhaps not surprising to hear your Dad’s Bonnington/ Boardman/ Tasker books inspired your adventures too. You wouldn’t have got chucked out of our Venture’s Unit for boozing tho!
Fairhead.
Sussed quickly. really tests your decision making on basalt columns – wide bridging but then cant reach the crack or a safety first thrutch. Seems very popular nowadays and very clean rock – nice though if the sun would shine!
Hello John
I’m a new member and interested in understanding more about the SunRock Oct trip.
Would a call be in order to get more details? what’s your number? or I’m on 01386 555 963
Best
Steve P
Hi Rob
Great to hear that you like it – thanks for the kind words.
Cheers, Dom
I second that Rob, many thanks to all involved, helps to keep me motivated.
stay safe
Mark n Jackie
Hi Bill. I would like a copy. Please let know how to pay etc. Cheers paul.
This is the classic RC walk that inspired both Alan Heaton, and then me, to make separate record attempts on the Scottish 4,000ers in 1980 respectively. We both went from East to West, and refined the Brockbank/ Williamson route considerably, by taking a straighter line between upper Glen Feshie to Dalwhinnie. Both of us were successful, in my case achieving the first sub-24 hour traverse on 20 July 1980. I even made it into the Guinness Book of Records (1982 edition). My friend Martin Stone then went one better, by reducing the total time in 1986. And finally Stephen Pyke has held the current record of 20 hours 23 minutes since 2007. It is worth noting that Mike Cudahy did the trip in Winter conditions using a bike in March 1997. Happy days! See https://www.scottishhillrunners.uk/LongDistanceRecords.aspx?LongDistanceRecordID=19?LongDistanceRecordID=19
Dom,
Am i the only person that hasn’t received a calendar – checked with local Rucksakers and they all had them about a month ago. Can you resend me one.
Ta
Pete
As The Club won’t be publishing a Journal this year, the Committee has agreed to send a free copy of the Calendar to every member instead – Hopefully you’ve received yours and are enjoying it!
Of course, that means we’ve missed out on a fundraising opportunity, so it would be great if you would consider making a donation to Urban Uprising anyway (maybe a tenner or whatever you feel is appropriate) at: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/dominic-oughton
The calendar illustrates the great good fortune we all enjoy in our appreciation of the outdoors, and to my mind this reinforces a commitment to share this joy with those less fortunate.
Cheers, Dom
I couldn’t get your whole link to work but this does. https://seansmountaincamera.blogspot.com/
I could write down all the answers I knew on a post-it note. You’ll probably do better.
An RC logo on the vehicle might promote RC too…
(As a team member of a neighbouring MREW team CVSRT, I could promise to put a logo on my unicycle used for fundraising by riding coast to coast…
… go on… )
Magical show from JB last night – thanks!
In case you missed it, John’s talk on Islands is now available for catch up here: https://vimeo.com/502530983 and all of the Virtual Meets can be found under the ‘Stay In There!’ tab on the menu bar.
It’s pretty astounding pictures, even if we do have to use Internet Explorer to use it.
I remember some years ago that people did a gigapixel project for Stanage. I can’t now find it anywhere. Does anyone know if that’s still available on the web? As I remember that had higher resolution than these Yosemite pictures.
It worked fine for me using Firefox or Safari on a Mac.
Fab resource! You can get a great complementary view on Google Earth, where they’ve done really high res satellite mapping:
https://earth.google.com/web/@37.73129443,-119.63086391,1674.60432629a,1872.83346763d,35y,0.00000001h,79.64392895t,-0r
Either would have been super handy finding the start of North America Wall 😉
Tom Fetcher also recommends the in2white gigapixel site for Mont Blanc:
https://www.in2white.com
(note you need the full address: just using in2white.com doesn’t open a secure connection).
Great set pictures the January gallery.
Great initiative Bill (& Ian). Really enjoyed scrolling through everyone’s photos. Fantastic memories of days out in the mountains, on the moors, on the crags & some even on the water!
It just confirms our clubs wide variety of activities.
Did anyone else spot the yellow holes in the snow on the photo of the Matterhorn summit ridge?
couldn’t logon to zoom used password of 1902 – not accepted, Disappointing.
Jim,
A recording of Joe’s talk has been posted in the Virtual Meet Gallery under the Stay in There! tab.
Cheers
thanks Tim
Thank you for your welcome R C.
Rowena Cass of the Anabasis
Thank you for the welcome and for admitting us into RC. Look forward to joining in virtual and then actual Meets in future months.
Fiona, of former Anabasis
Great talk from John yesterday – historical perspective plus amazing pics from 1,000m under the Vercour. If you missed it you can ‘catch-up’ here: https://vimeo.com/513304501
You can also find a great YouTube video of a trip here: https://youtu.be/62bkceLCjRQ
The next episode is on Tuesday 2 March and features A tale of two trips: Dhaulagiri VII and the Rolwaling Himal by Andy Tomlinson & Andy Llewellyn
Thank you for the welcome. I’m really looking forward to meeting you all and creating new memories. Esther Threlfall, former Anabasis and Fiona Bishop’s older and wiser sister (honestly ????)
It was great to ‘e-meet’ so many former members of the Anabasis on the last ‘zoom show’ – great to have you all on board and looking forward to a time when we can actually get out ‘on the hill’! Meanwhile, stay tuned for the fortnightly ‘Virtual Meets’.
Cheers, Dom
Sorry to miss the latest Zoom. Amnesia! Well-noted for 16th.
I, too, appreciated Dave Atkinson’s ‘Tribute to the Anabasis Mountaineering Club’ Dom which is on the BMC website.
Now available to catch-up at https://vimeo.com/518984792
Yes I agree Peter. I have friends and relatives living in that area and they say that during the last 12 months of lock-downs and restrictions, the place has been like Blackpool on a sunny holiday weekend.
Inconsiderate drivers have been parking all over the place. The authorities have had to introduce parking restrictions on the Holmfirth road. Volunteers have been busy picking up all the rubbish these so called walkers have left.
Dovestones was featured for walking recently in the Ramblers magazine. Then Healey Dell in Rochdale was featured. I’ve stopped going up to Binn Green to run since January lockdown because the police have been going round checking registrations and where they come from. Before the lockdown everywhere was parked up and mostly I was lucky to find one space left. I’m only 8 miles from Binn Green but won’t drive that far now because I don’t want the hassle of police asking me where I live.
I loved reading this. Thank you for sharing. Here’s to the next perfect day
Thanks Esther, glad you enjoyed the piece. You can find all the other OTHWs under the Stay In There! drop down on the home page of the website.
Cheers
Tim
Didn’t know you were a ‘chippy’, I was a ‘chippy’ at Loughborough (1965-9) too and took my B Ed exams in that very hall. I even remember a lecture in there to the whole year group, 150 odd.
Paul Riley
That really is GREAT NEWS! Congratulations and many thanks to all involved (especially Joe, Andy and Andy) for taking on the task of putting this in place. Looking forward to “Getting Out There!” again soon 🙂
Cheers, Dom
SOLD SAME DAY
Condition was a bit like your cars then!
How you doing
Pete
If anyone wants the Zoom link for the Alpine Club ClubCast event tomorrow, send me an email and I will forward it 🙂
Hi if not already taken can I book the hut for 17th to 21st June
Many thanks Gary Noble
Hi Are we back to the normal pricing at huts after they return to normal booking please?
Hi Andrew. I’m a new member and can’t find the handbook for your details. I’d love to join you on 12th June, have read the guidance and am happy to abide by whatever is in place at the time. Can you contact me direct to get my details?
Thanks Sue
Suestreetmacclesfield@ yahoo.co.uk
Yes please Keith, should be able to do distance by then!!
We will come up in van, so if there’s space Tom would like to walk too.
Jo Corban
Great article. Loved reading this.
Welcome to the club , good effort ! No doubt we will meet soon ! regards James Schofield
Read your On the Hill again Tim – not far removed from my experiences – minus Himalayan and Munro adventures. Excellent article thanks.
Welcome to you both and many thanks for sharing the pictures, looks a good trip.
Andy
Good weekend out and thanks for posting on our Website. Look forward to catching up with you both before too long.
Andy
Well done guys. Nice that you got the weather that one deserves
on Cader, unlike for myself and Jonathon two years ago.
Welcome to the Club. Hopefully catch up with you both soon. Eddie and Jonathon Birch.
See you there John – I’ll camp Friday/Saturday
Good call! Saw it last Feb pre-pandemic on the recommendation of climbing pals down there, we all enjoyed it, against expectations. There’s even a reference to Windgather – bizarre!
Hi Everyone. Just to let you know that the 30 “restricted” places have now filled up. Sorry! I’m very much hoping that the “rules” will allow more than this number, so do keep sending me booking requests (DIRECT VIA WHATSAPP OR EMAIL TO dominic@oughton.uk.com) and I’ll maintain a “standby list”. I will also post updates as things hopefully become clearer! Cheers, Dom
Well spotted John…it is all part of the current Covid requirements. The Club is following Government guidance and there is reference to this in the General Information for Hut Users under Beudy Mawr when logged in as a Member as, at present, Hut use is only available to members. Guidance may change shortly given the widely anticipated update expected on Monday [14th June].
Indeed sad news. Gerry and I have fond memories of John especially when he did the alternative Karrimor meet we organised. He seemed surprised at how much beer Andy could drink – I’d brought in a barrel of beer at the overnight – our garden!
He was a great proof reader for me in my first stint as Journal editor.
Oh no. So sorry to hear this sad news.
I remember the Karrimor and the keg of beer!
John was always great company on the hill, our conversations a delight. Love to all the Llewellyn’s ❤️❤️
Sorry to hear the sad news. John was a very supportive member of the Club for as long as I can remember. I recall a pleasant day at Wallowbarrow Crag when the sun was shining and he was wondering if Andy was ever going to take to the climbing as he followed up a route.
This was a man be proud you knew him and if you were is friend feel very privileged .
Very sorry to hear about John, always such a gentleman. We last saw him pre-Covid when he kindly delivered the book about Taffy to our home and we insisted he stayed for lunch. Many happy memories. My wife was particularly fond of John as he made a point of remembering the name of members wives at the dinner when he was President.
John’s friendly welcoming smile at indoor meets will be sorely missed.
He taught me the benefits of good manners on the morning of the 2010 Dinner. As we started up the Crib Goch start to the PyG track, with Carole Smithies, – he demonstrated that by standing aside to allow faster parties to proceed & descending groups to pass, we could enjoy the views, & catch our breath. Truly a wonderful gentleman.
Very sad news, John was lovely man . He offered support on my meet in 2014 ,met us at three locations on the Lleyn then ferried us back to Buedy on Bank Holiday Monday , the weather was awful ,roads flooded etc ! John just smiled and said he was glad to be of assistance . A true Gent !
Hi Eddie. Better late than never 🙂 Lithrig must have been quite a trip in the 60s! Nice one!
Cheers, Dom
A huge ‘thank you’ to Dom and Helen for all the work they put in to making this a memorable meet once again. A big thank you also goes to the many members who didn’t make the cut off and I know wanted to be there…your understanding is much appreciated.
Here’s to a fully open meet next year…and all the burger flipping volunteers!
Andy
PS What about the new ‘#findyouradventure’ [with the Rucksack Club] T-shirt…should be a winner, though not necessarily with me modelling!
What a brilliant collection of photos, well done everyone. Brings back happy (mainly!) memories.
Thanks for wonderful photos – they bring back great memories from before 30 years ago when I could still get up them! That meet looked well attended and very well organised accommodating diverse interests. Well done Cheers Stan Winstanley.
Sorry about the typos, could not figure out how to get back in to edit it!
Lovely weather for your final farewell to The Lower Cow Shed! I’m sure there was much reminiscing as well as looking to the future in the Big Cow Shed…amongst other huts of course! We look forward to the history of the Anabasis integrating fully with your new home as members of the Rucksack Club.
Thanks Andy – lovely weather? – was ever thus! No not really! The Capel Curig Weather Station is on the hill just above the Hut so Capel Curig weather reports are Garth ones. I had a little recce of the Big Cow Shed last week and look forward to staying there and at High Moss and Craigallan too.
Wonderful report of your Munro round, Kevin. Was the BMC scrambling course on Skye you refer to run by the late Colin Greenhow? If so, I was the BMC Training Officer at the time (1980s) and organised it. He was a brilliant Guide and had a great sense of humour. Now for the Corbetts? Chris Dodd
Hi Chris,
Honestly, I can’t remember but it was the early 80s so probably yes. He was a brilliant instructor.
Kevin
That was a great read Chris and well done! I will never be a completer – too focused on the climbing – but had a grand day on Ben Hope with Mike and Margaret Hart for their last one and now my daughter and her chap have started counting their Munro’s…..
Hi Dave,
Never say never. At 54, I thought I would never get a chance and yet I did.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin. I’m a bit (!) older than you and on my way back after ankle surgery so any next mountain will be fine. Your piece brought back many happy memories, thank you. Dave
A great read Kevin and really good pictures to go with it. Well done on completing them.
Very jealous that you got views from 90% of the tops…….perhaps you should revisit most of them in poor conditions for the full experience!
Thanks for writing it up.
Andy
Nooooooooooo! 🙂
Do members need a covid passport in order to attend meets or visit the huts.?
Thanks for asking Eddie…at this stage we are not asking for evidence such as a Covid passport, rather relying on members integrity.
Hi Rich. I’m a newbie to your group and am up for a Dinas Mot meet. Feel free to give me a call if you like.
Mahesh mob : 07803703487
UKC profile name : rockover
Thanks!
Hello Lyn, What a wonderful catalogue of derring-dos, starting with the outrageous adventure with Keith Treacher in Lyngen, the photo of Kaisergebirge Wall in boots and rope around the waist, the black cars of the 1950s on Skye, with Colin Mortlock on the Cassin route on the Badile, north face of the Dru with John Brailsford – anybody starting climbing after the safety conscious 1970s would not understand the level of adventure or length of neck you took for granted when climbing then. Good to read later of the Weisshorn with your son (Richard Harris and I did that in 1965). And Yosemite, and the Doldenhorn, Malham overhang with Pete Hutchinson. And later trips to the Costa Blanca, Jordan (I’ve not been there), and even Pakistan – a very miserable time there for me, swore I’d never go back. Skiing and nowadays walks with old mates. Keep up the leg work, love the hills as a part of life.
Interested to note you went to Norway in your early days as did my father Kevin a few years later. Colin Mortlock took a similar expedition from MGS and invited my Dad and John Whittle along as old boys. Sounds like their trip might have been inspired by your previous time there.
Thanks Lyn, that’s a great write up. I remember Keith telling me about your trip and other exploits. I too have been privileged to know K and was also introduced to his beloved Club.
Hi Bill
Keen to get involved in this trip
How does one sign on?
Best
P
Hi,
Thought i saw a post from someone about doing some snow shoeing on the Cogne meet but cant find it. If anyone is interested im keen to go and perhaps do a mix of snowshoeing and cross country skiing.
Cogne is great for cross country as it was developed for the Turin olympics and there are loads of tracks plus its handy for any of the Aosta ski areas. Get in touch if you are interested or know who posted before
pete
Hi Bill, is my booking for Reading Mountaineering Club still ok for December?
Thanks
George
Or if you buy it direct from CAC second class postage is free
Is theMeetstaff still being issued? I don’t recollect having had one for some time, maybe my lack of IT skills.
Fantastic weekend Andy, congratulations really enjoyable.
Thanks Keith…great to see you there last weekend and catch up.
When I first climbed it in my 20’s it was the height of my ambitions, at Mild VS it was a step up. I had Greenop’s Up to Hard Severe Guide (anyone remember that?) which wonderfully described the moves left to the pedestal as made possible by ‘a small foothold, prominent in its utter singularity’. We trudged up from Borrowdale loaded up for an overnight bivvy, and first did Hopkinson’s Cairn Direct from Lords Rake. Moss Ghyll Grooves did not disappoint, in the golden sunshine of a summer evening with Scafell Crag to ourselves. Just perfect. Next morning we did Woodhead’s on the Pinnacle in swirling mist before heading back to Borrowdale, no doubt for a beer or three.
Thank you, Dave. Neat that “the very first entry” was by Dr Chris Cowley. Later he became “The Main Man” behind Saddam Hussein’s Supergun. His boss and “Front Man”, Dr Gerald Bull, was assassinated in Belgium by The Mossad. Chris was under pressure, but reputedly warned that if anything happened to him, wife or daughter, then he would bring down “the top three in The British Government” (presumably Thatcher, Major and Hurd).
He was a Founder Member of The Anabasis, and a fine climber.
Pen Ci
Gaynor Owen is climbing the final crack on “Hound’s Head Buttress”. So called because when viewed from below it looked like a dog’s head. This fine rock-climb was blown up by the council in 1963 because it was deemed unsafe.
https://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/38/84/388495_3e59ea5f.jpg
Kevin Hostford comments:
Do you know of anyone driving back to Marsden after the walk ,as I will need to pick up my car from there to get back to Wetherby?
Thanks
Totally support your decision Ian, well put.
Thank you for all your hard work Ian and for your honesty…making such decisions is never easy. Thanks to Gareth for agreeing to take over as coordinator at this late hour and for restating the transport difficulties.
Yes Ian, well put and a good decision. Two close friends announced in the last few days that they have Covid. So we are doing our best to avoid it and slow the spread. Best wishes.
Hi Bill
Myself and my partner Paul Scott would still like to go. I am an associate member with my application for membership being processed. We are both climbers club members so have reciprocal rights if that has any meaning at the moment. Can we book it for friday saturday? And if so do we need a key?
Thanks
Debbie Marsh
A magnificent effort, Gareth, well done!
Yes. Magnificent indeed. Extreme social distancing. But where have the other masochists gone? In view of the forecast has commonsense broken out?
I was sorry to miss this due to zoom log in failure last night, so I watched a couple of old ones. Assume this will be going on ‘catch-up’ as well?
Hi Richard
Yup – they all get posted in the Virtual Meets Gallery, but it takes a little while. In the meantime you should be able to access the Matterhorn show at the following link
https://us06web.zoom.us/rec/share/C_Bq2dKYJrwMso_h56KjCXHTaioAcxB6nmGY4Ek7xev5lf3waLWaIOzCsEhmBrOn.7oSDIL8FqQYmKCKS
Using the Passcode: 5cK?L0F#
Cheers, Dom
It’s now added to the virtual meets gallery (under ‘Get Out there’ on the top menu) alongside all the other virtual meets videos.
Hello John,
I would be interested in staying at Craigallan on 26th and 27th May and again on 31st May please..
Just for myself.
For those who couldn’t make the live performance, the video (alongside all the other virtual meet videos) is on the Virtual Meet Gallery which can be found under the Get Out There menu.
Sound s good But with no instructions onhow to access it I am afraid I have missed it
The above link is not a link as such
I have tried copying and pasting it into my browser and it just says Invalid meeting link
As it is a link for the whole of series 3 some instructions for future access might be helpful
Thanks
billy murphy can not click on the link sorry
We really did try
The video of the presentation is now avilable via the “Virtual Meet Gallery”. You can find it via the “Get Out There” menu on the top of the screen.
Dave says “Eddie Birch has kindly sent a copy to Tut to remind him of a great period in the 60s”.
Update – the MUMC team topped out successfully, and with a bit of help from a late push by some Rucksackers went on to break through the 10,000m barrier. Job done! But there’s still time to donate to help push through the £1,000 barrier!
https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/MUMC-Everest
Good luck John…that’s some walk!
My mobile number is not in the handbook. If anyone wants to contact me about the walk, my number is 07890804772
John
Many thanks for organising the weekend and the walk enjoyed everyone’s company
Mick
Just to be clear(er) – Meet venue for climbing Beacon Hill Car Park WA6 6HE, GR 518765.
Meet venue for the walk Helsby Quarry Car Park, WA6 9PU, GR 490749
Please contact me by email if you think you may join us for the day and whether for a walk or a climb. No confirmation needed at this stage, but it will be helpful to have a list of people to contact nearer the date. Thank you. dave.atkinson27@gmail.com
I WILL ACCEPT OFFERS!
What a sneaky way to hang up your boots! I bet you had Shirley cleaning them for hours and will be as pristine as all your cars.
On another note Im been visited by Denise Brown tomorrow on one of her road trips.
Best wishes
Pete
No Pete I have not “Hung up my boots”. Still at it!
Make me an offer for the shoes.
Give Denise our best wishes.
Regards
Geoff
Hi all. About to leave Lincoln. A bit ahead of schedule. I’ve posted a revised timetable on the club Facebook page. So far so good.
Sorry pdf attachment got lost – it will be sent out by email.
Pdf now added…
Hi Gary. I’ve never been on a Wednesday walkers meet and would like to join you on your Siabod walk on the 18th. However the news on the street is that at the appointed time, they(The Wed walkers)have a tendency to shoot off and disappear beyond the horizon. In view of my not being in the condition I was in the past I don’t really wish to find myself on a solo walk. That being said I look forward to joining you on the 18th June and just hope I can stay in contact.
Eddie Birch
THAT should have read 22nd June not the 18th.
According to Jill, Coppice Hill car park is the one – SJ979191
Unfortunately Dave is out of the country right now and can’t reply to calls or emails. (Which is also why this post came from me.)
He should be back next week – before the 18th.
Looks like a good time was had by All. lovely weather as well.
Coppice Hill car park then, not Brocton car park?
Oops confrontational should read confirmational. Gary (Expletive deleted auto-correction).
Can someone take over my Wednesday night meet AUGUST 3RD ,at SMALL DALE QUARRY near Buxton as i will be in Ailfroide France that week.
Thanks John Warby.
Hi Peter. I would be interested in joining you on your Saddleworth 5 Trigs meet. Are you planning on walking or fell-running (assuming the latter as you mention ‘….and a new record will be set….’!)? Living locally in Dobcross I am well aware of the fantastic landscape and views (on a good day!) on offer. Best regards, Adam.
Hi Peter,
I am interested in attending.
I am working out the feasibility atm.
Do you recommend a campsite nearby?
BW
Camille
Great work Bill thanks for putting this together. Great photos and good to see how active Club members are.
Come on everybody send Bill some more photos from 2022.
Andy
I’m sorry the link thing does not work, now I’ve got to figure out how to edit/delete the post.
Well Dom…what a fantastic effort and I can’t wait to get my hands on a copy given the quality of photos you left out! You deserve a huge thank you from the Club for encouraging us all to contribute and then setting about the difficult task of choosing the final pictures and getting it all together…along with the inevitable help from the Assistant Editor for everything, JP!
Andy
Should have said 7pm doors open and the slideshow will start at 7:30pm
See you there!
Cheers, Dom
Speak to Eddie Birch, Eric is a friend of Dads and lives not far from him in wales. I will also mention that your looking for a copy of the film when I speak to him later.
That’s great, Ali
Thanks very much 👍
Just realised we also know the Director so will make some calls.
😊 👍👍👍
Hi Dom,
Here you go thanks to the directors they have a free link to watch the film Eric Jones The Last Climb, on Vimeo
https://vimeo.com/763799215
enjoy
Ali
That was a great watch, Ali
Thanks again !
Hi I am an Anabasis Rucksac member
For many years we have owned a villa near Fethiye and will be there from Feb 14 next year
I am more of a runner and walker than climber and we are 3 hours drive from Antalaya
But it would be great to get across to meet you guys when you come
Also if I can be of help with local knowledge or if anyone wants to stay on near Fethiye for a holiday then just let me know
Peter Simpson
Hello Pete we will be based at JOSITO CAMPING PLACE from 15th-24 th Feb.There are 5 of us up to now so if you want to come over let us know.
John.
Hi all, for Craigallan Hogmanay trip 28th Dec to 2nd Jan (ish): So far there’s 3 yesses(myself, Dave and kev), 3 maybes (Steven, mark and my mate Sam) and perhaps a few more folk(?) understandably reserving any judgement til they see a forcast! 😅.
Long range forcast sounds like there should be some nice windows of weather around that time, albeit not perhaps as convincingly certain as wished!
Any one else tempted/interested? I’m reasonably flexible on dates so would be tempted to head up a day earlier/stay later if that co-ordinated with others travel plans!
I propose to walk from Marsden to Bleaklow Head and return to Marsden by the same route.
Regards
Kevin Hostford
There are 5 of us going to Antalya in Feb for some HOT ROCK bolt clipping.
Can the 2 people from Sheffield i think 1 is from the club but i have lost your contact details please send names and contacts so we can meet up before we go , maybe the weekend before?
Thanks, John.
Cant find any information about these meets in Meetstaff or on the calendar – is this just a group of mates going or is it a meet
Yes, both are informal meets organised by members of the Club
HI Andy yes please book myself and 1 other in for the meet as its my camping/climbing weekend meet in the wye valley 7th-9th july, so i’m on the way down there anyway.We will be camping at the count house if there is room otherwise will try and find a site nearby. John Warby.
Being an old man, I have submitted articles in the past, and I do like having a paper copy.
However my present comment is that the Austrian post office customs department has again sent me a long letter saying that the value of the yearbook is implausible and refusing to deliver it without further proof. These Brexit benefits are wearisome. I have protested. Last year they relented.
Alex
thanks for this and your articles in the past. I’m afraid we all struggle with the postal system with third country (EU and US) arrangements. Our fulfilment agents and JP do try to give as clear a definition as possible about paper Journal and the fact that it has no value- used to be so easy! We can’t mitigate for jobsworths in the receiving postal organisation. Sorry if you don’t get the Journal as easily as in the past. I’m a remainer too.
Neil
Fantastic talk by Will last night and some great pictures. And thanks to Dom for organising another great season of Indoor Meets.
Hello
Do you have availability for 3 adults at Craigallen for one night on Friday 7th April. I am a member of the Rucksack Club, the other two would be guests.
Many thanks
Amanda West
Beudy Mawr – 75th Anniversary week-end Just to say that Beudy Mawr during the 1960s and 1970s was essential to my mountaineering lifestyle. It was the location and the people that endeared it to me on week-end meets, so I want to wish this anniversary celebration every success. I might be there with you in spirit, but sadly not in body as I no longer travel such distances from home in Scotland.
I’ll join you tomorrow,
Steve
Hi Mark. Thank you for your interesting Mount Kenya post and would be keen to get involved. Please include me on your long list of RC participants. Primary interest is in climbing but would need to partner up. Also, in extending my trip to include trekking, safari etc. It is over 20 years since I summited Kilimanjaro from Tanzania, so it would be wonderful to return to Africa! Contact details in members book but ignore the mobile ending in 675 as this is now obsolete! Many thanks, Adam.
Hi all. Feel free to get in touch if you want more details about this as there’s three weeks to go!!!
All the very best with this Phil, I hope you get lots of support
Hi Dom
The cycling tops look great. Sizing for cycling clothing is notoriously varied. Instead of ordering something that turns out to be the wrong size, can we please have the actual measurements of the garments? Armpit to armpit and nape to hem would be great, please.
Sizing info – if you order on this basis and end up disappointed I’ll get a few spares for a swap or a refund
Mens cycle top – S 37″ M 40″ L 42″ XL 44″ 2XL 46″
Womens cycle tops – XS 8 S 10 M 12 L 14 XL 16
Mens cool T – XS 35″ S 38″ M 40″ L 43″ XL 45″ 2XL 48″ 3XL* 50″ 4XL† 53″ 5XL† 55″
Womens cool T – XS 8 S 10 M 12 L 14 XL 16 2XL* 18
Please may l order 2 blue t shirts size men’s large 43 inch chest.
Cheers Granville
An excellent idea, that may reduce the number of sleepless nights one gets due to snorers!! Good luck with that.
The subdivision of bed spaces is generally a good idea. High Moss has worked well in that respect. The bedspace in Beudy is quite small compared to High Moss so subdivision would be quite tight. Do we need a members’ dorm still? Would it be more flexible without?
Hello people i need to know if anyone is coming on my Wye valley meet in July.
This is because i have to let the campsite know numbers so they can reserve a pitch for us all.
I realise there may be last minute decisions due to weather forecasts but a rough idea will help.
Thanks John.
Sorry about that
JonR
Wye Valley meet update, Beeches campsite are asking for tent numbers and also camper vans have to do a 2 night booking slot i don,t know why?? so if you are definitely coming they need to know numbers ASAP.Thanks John
A salutary tale Sam, always wear a helmet.
Wow! What an adventure and an amazing achievement – really enjoyed this, Eddie! Thanks for bringing it to a wider audience Andy. Cheers, Dom
Great pics! Good to meet up with some old mates at the Count House, albeit briefly. Couple of minor caption corrections (me being a picky local): Right Angle is at Gurnard’s Head, not Robins Rocks; Mike and Dick are on P1 of Doorway, not Doorpost. Take it easy out there….
Thanks Sam…all corrected!
Thanks for reproducing the account of the Pamirs expedition..a wonderfully written and absorbing read !
Hi Mark, can you sign myself (Dave Crilley) and Nancy Crilley up for the dinner please.
My email is davecrilley4@gmail.com for further instructions, and what we need to do re. ordering food, payment etc.,.
Many thanks,
Dave
I’ve had several email notifications for this event, but I can’t find what day in November it occurs. Can anyone enlighten me? I’d like to see it on Zoom.
OK Found it! It’s Tues Nov 14th, 7.15 for 7.30. Be helpful to put it on the page.
Me neither, what day is is this event happening?
14 November (according to the Meets Calendar)
I’ve added the date to the post and a link to the Meets Calendar
Hi. I’d like to do at least the single. If the weather is as booked, then probably the double. I’m a newbie so as yet don’t have the handbook and therefore no email addresses. But count me in.
Many thanks
Yvonne
Hi Ian,
I am intending to do at least the single again this coming January, however just struggling with a bad back at the moment. (Getting those excuses in early this time…!) Will confirm what I’m up to for definite closer the time, but for now, pencil me in.
Gareth L
I’d like to join, I’m undecided at the moment as it’s a very long way for a walk for me from West London.
I’m also struggling with boots as my current ones kill my achilleas after 10 miles, I’ll keep an eye on the weather forecast before I make any commitment and look for some new boots.
For info for those doing the Marsden-Edale. If you should drop out, please let Carole know on:
07786 485 485 or if you can’t get through pass on a messsage via The Rambles on
01433 670 268 so we know you are safe.
Thanks
Ian
George Hostford writes:
Is anyone walking from Edale (and I am not asking about the doublers)? Its just that the use of trains from Chesterfield to Marsden seems to ensure I don’t get much sleep on Friday night versus using a car to drive but if I park at Marsden then I have to take a train from Edale back to Marsden to pick up my car; looking at timetables there is a train at 18:47 from Edale which arrives at Marsden at 20:30 which seems to be a better option than all train and bus. I would appreciate any advice on options apart of getting much fitter so I can just do the double!
George Hostford
Hi Gareth,
Thanks for your update. I would like to attend if that would be okay?
By the by, I cannot see any contact details or handbook anywhere.
Regards,
Stephen.
Update: some participants opted for a slightly longer route via Featherbed Moss, Fairbrook Naze and round the edges to the short crossing – and still finished without headlamps!
Bill
one of our neighbours has a grid type mesh in which the grass grows and it appears to work quite well. It desn’t get the traffic that Buedy probably does.
Hi Neil – thanks for that. The traffic is very occasional. It’s not very often we need to use the area. It’s when we do and people just don’t realise what damage they are doing.
The landscaping grid mesh products look good for this. I have seen plastic (as at Stanage) and galvanised steel at Jo’s neighbours. Probably going to need a contractor with plant to grade the area and lay the mesh. Give Eddy a call, he may know someone local with the necessary skills to do a good job if you don’t know anyone.
George
Thanks George – I’m assuming you mean Eddie Birch. I’ll contact him. One factor to consider us that we are looking at occasional use. The cost implications are significant – I would prefer that people would have the good sense not to attempt getting up a waterlogged slope. There are other parking areas ( but they involve a short walk back to the hut).
Dunno about pricings, but those interlocking blocks that the Fire Services put down would also allow drainage and “a carpet of grass”.
Hello Bill, The best way to fix the problem is with the plastic grid system ,but the ground prep is the key ,it’s exspensive you’ll need a contractor etc ! Bargin basement is spray the ground with weed killer ,cover with a membrane and stone chipping on top it’s called MOT , but check the colour off it cos you’re in a national park ! It would be feasible with a courageous working party ! Regards Jimmy
Jimmy, I agree about the chippings. I managed to get 20 tonnes of very cheap chuckies from my local council quarry (Aberdeenshire) and delivered by one of their haulage contractors, all very economical. Not sure if Welsh councils have their own quarries, but might be worth a look.
Hi Gill , 20 tons is about £650 ,it doesn’t go far ,I’d buget on 40 also cos it’s a small access it might have to delivered in 10 tons so premium on cost! Regards Jimmy
Just checked prices , bargin job with slaves from the club £ 1500 ish , belt and braces £8 to £12000 depends on who wants the job most 😀 regards Jimmy
Brilliant Dom…thanks for letting us know what CAC is supporting. A huge thanks to you too for all the hard work you put in fund raising and to promoting CAC’s work.
Nice set of photos Tom…it wasn’t me on the Meet though!
Hi Tom,
Wow, I didn’t even recognize myself in those photos! I’ve had a look back through my photos from the meet and it might be Gary Bunting and Tony Gray in the early photos, maybe also Danny Struggles later on in the bright top.
Hope this helps.
So sorry to hear about Edwin’s death. Condolences to the family. I will be at the funeral. Mary White
Dear Mark,
Two nights, Friday, 8th + Saturday, 9th November, 2024 , double room with double bed, dinner for two both nights.
Thanks for organising,
S. Rowena CASS
Hi
How’s the best way to submit an article and what’s the deadline?
Thanks
22nd-29th Feb 2025 …!!!
Easter Meet, 1906, described in the 1907 Journal, Milner also attended the Easter Meet of 1909 at Dolgelly. At both meets it was reported that he kept the younger audience fully entertained by his reminiscences of adventures in the Hills.
Hi how do I see a copy of the above report please?
Good choice. It seems the editor’s song does not change! The current membership does not have the excuse of war curtailing activities. Maybe it is the prevelance of social media and an instogram generation more intent on pictures and short videos than writing copy which is leading to a drought of contributions to the Journal. Whatever is the reason, we are in danger of facing the same possibility of publication every two years or longer. Unlike the war years, members are able to ‘get out there’ and easily accessible now includes most of the UK and parts of Europe. Without contributions we can’t publish a Journal and publishing costs are increasing making a thin Journal very poor value for money. It would be good to get some articles on current trips and for me not to rely on the usual suspects and memories of trips many years ago. The survival of the Journal is in your hands.
Think its about time we had a live AGm. The AGM is more than a tick box exercise but an opportunity for members to get together, socialise and discuss – that does not happen on a Zoom meeting. We have live indoor meets so nothing really to stop us having a live AGM!
He was nice man
V Sad 🙁
That’s very sad indeed. I’d like to send very belated condolences to his family.
John Allen writes:
So sorry to hear that Tom has passed away. He was one of the first members I climbed with (along with Joe Walmsley, Geoff Smith and Harold Mellor). In the 1960s we often met on meets at Beudy Mawr and climbed in the Pass, on Cloggy, and he did the Skye Ridge in 1965 on a meet organised I think in 1965 by Harry Moody. He was the backbone of our organisation to visit the Himalayas in 1968 overland – we actually went to the Karakorum, from Manchester via Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Employed by the Manchester Evening News for most of his working life, he managed to persuade his bosses to release him for the expedition, continuously to employ him in order to send regular reports on route and on the mountain (Malubiting -24,451ft) and donate £500 to the venture. He had the unenviable job of relating the death of Brian Ripley to the MEN and to readers.
He was a founder member of the Outdoor Writers Guild, wrote regularly for ‘Climber’ magazine and was particularly keen to promote the 90th Anniversary of the Mass Trespass on Kinder Scout (1932).
He also had a remarkable recovery from Covid in 2020; eventually had cancer, dementia, parkinson’s, a stroke; he did not give up lightly.
He had two sons and a daughter by his first wife Ann. His second wife Barbara died of cancer some years ago, but over a period of many years had enjoyed world travel with her. He and I kept in touch irregularly and I would send my condolences to his surviving family.
My memories of Tom Waghorn are mostly of his presence on the Rucksack Commitee where he was almost a continual member between1962 and 1998. When the commitee after long deliberation, decided they wanted a letter, article or press release Tom would write it in the bar immediately after the meeting. The result was always appropriate, polished and effective.
He was a regular presence on Club Meets in those days and I remember climbing with him on gritstone in the 1990’s when he was perhaps less agile.
Tom was a highly valued volunteer for the BMC in the 1980s, advising on PR via the relevant Committee. His advice was always relevant, intelligent and witty, and he was hugely in demand!
Hi Ian, sounds good. Is it a hike or a run/ jog? Cheers, Dan
Hi Dan, I’ll be doing it as a hike, albeit at a good pace. You are more than welcome to join us or you may find takers for a run if that is what you prefer. Cheers, Ian
Thanks Ian. A hike works for me, just wanted to make sure! See you on Saturday morning.
I have posted a version of this comment on Facebook, so, apologies for repeating myself: on the subject of internet and, especially, keyless door entry (mooted on the FB post), could you please consider the fact that not everyone owns a smart phone and, furthermore, not everyone wants to own a smart phone (contrary to popular belief, life can go on without one). I would be very concerned if not owning one of those infernal contraptions would in the future prevent me from gaining entry to the hut(s), Sam (aka ‘That dinosaur in Cornwall’!)
Great report, great pictures, just sorry I wasn’t there …. I think?!
You would have loved it, Andy. I’m tempted to add it to the meets programme for next year – it’s a great pre-Christmas blast.
Due to popular demand, I’ve added a route map (just about managed to print it from OS maps at 1:25000). If anyone wants the gpx route, let me know and I’ll send it to you.
Paul Sherman writes:
Qu.
What do you call a sheep which is striped like a zebra?
A. Baa humbug
Rehards
Paul
Over the years I have driven from North Staffordshire to Manchester to catch the early train [07.00] from Piccadilly, which I was looking forward to doing again this year. Sadly the current situation with the rail network means this is not really an option…I’d need to leave home by 05.00😂. Hoping that by next year the weekend service has been resumed 😉.
Great stuff, Dan, hope you get some takers. I’ll look forward to you joining us mere mortals for the other half on Saturday morning!
Cheers
Ian
Update to add that I’ve had a positive response from one other member, so the M2E Double 2025 is happening! Currently looking for someone to help out with provisions in Marsden at breakfast. Even if I can just hand over a drop bag on Friday to be available in Marsden on Saturday morning, that would be a big help.
Please let me know if you can help.
Cheers, Dan
Hi Dan, I’m in Marsden, have you had any luck with support?
If not I might be able to help?
You can drop a bag with me Friday, and I can meet you Saturday am. Let me know if I can help.
Sarah
Hi Dan, it falls on my son’s birthday this year, but I intend to “run” the Double next year. Hope it goes well this weekend! Guy
A big thank you to Sarah Crilley and George Horstford who have both offered to help!
Agree Dan…if my memory serves me well, we always used to meet in the Nags Head but then it’s opening became unpredictable so moved to the Ramblers!
Yep, the Nags started two have a two week annual shutdown in early January. If they are back to being open again, then we could move it back to the Nags in future.
btw – sounds like I’ll have to pop in to the Nags for a quick one on the way to the Ramblers – just to see who is there 🙂
Gets my vote!
It would be a ‘yes’ from me too.
I know some folk like to switch off and be away from it all, myself included. However, I would be more inclined to use the hut on my own and stay longer if there was wifi, as I could get other ‘things’ done in the evening. Being able to sort emails, or tidy up a bit of work instead of having to head home to do it would extend some of my stays.
My vote is yes also, updated weather forecast road conditions etc , keep us oldies alive longer, also if you don’t want to much social contact just stare a you tablet 👍 regards Jimmy
Also WhatsApp we can keep in contact with our loved ones easily 👍regards Jimmy
John Richardson sent me an email with a great affirmation of what the M-E means:
“Ian, I’m writing in appreciation of your support and enthusiasm for the Annual Marsden Edale bash.
Not sure whether my personal record of M – E encounters stands as a record over-all but it was, for me, absolutely THE early season meet not to miss during many many years, (most of them Doubles). The M-E set a bench mark by which to measure one’s progress through the year. I used to particularly enjoy the navigational challenges of the overnight sections, heading north from Edale, usually trying to add in an element of route novelty, occasionally with near disastrous results, such as when Brain C and I descended the wrong Black Clough, leading to a vertical descent of a peaty cliff in Stygian darkness. (Interesting that such ordeals are often transformed in the memory into glorious adventures).
I do so hope that the diminishing numbers taking part, despite your Herculean efforts, in the annual M-E and M-Ex2, is not a portent of worse to come.
It’s a walk that has given me so much and, I believe, still has much to offer. Long may the tradition continue.
Walks such as the M-E and many much longer such ventures seem to me to be part of the very core of what marks our club out as different from many other such associations. Whilst I very much appreciate the time and effort voluntarily put into the support and maintenance of our Club Huts, I would be saddened to think that interest in our property might lead to reduction of interest in “GETTING OUT THERE.”
Good luck with the campaign.
Yours Sincerely
John Richardson”
Hi,
I am keen to have them for my partner. She can definitely do with a pair of crampons for when we go winter walking/scrambling together.
Kind Regards
Sam
Hi,
I would be interested in getting a pair, if it’s still available.
All the best
Camille
Hi Everyone,
I now have a short list of people interested in them – they’re a bargain, trying to think why I’m not after them – anyway, I think we can assume if you haven’t contacted me already, they’re already taken.
Thanks again, all money to CAC and thanks again to Paul S
Gareth L
I have many guidebooks which I no longer, regrettably, use. They mostly date back to the 1990s and 2000s so are reasonably current. Would someone like them? I’d really like them to go as a single lot. Alternatively can anyone suggest a good home for them? My contact details as per the Handbook. While I live in Hampshire I am sure I can find a way to get them to you. Jim Morris.
Hi Jim, yes I would certainly be interested!
Yes from me too. Even at my advanced age I find the loss of internet access a pain. It must be torture for young people. Apart from keeping in touch, I miss getting local weather updates, checking routes on mapping apps, bus timetables, etc. So there is a safety element, which can only grow as time goes on.
Foot in mouth time!
Thanks to those members who have pointed out that the revised completions list that I posted above omitted some previously-listed completions. For some unfathomable reason I used an out-of-date spreadsheet as the basis for my revisions. I am now in the process of rectifying this and will post a new list as soon as I have finished. I notice, though, that the Wainwright list in the 2022 spreadsheet (the current version on the website under ‘Get Out There!’) contains some anomalies, so please let me know if your entry is wrong.
Furthermore I am told that Gordon once had a list of Bob Graham completions, but I do not have it and my list is woefully incomplete. Again, please help if you can.
Andrew
How do i join the zoom meeting tonight ?
Alan
Thank you for the update Steve…and a big thank you to Karen for taking this duty on.
You have done a fantastic job for the last few years Steve…thank you for all your hard work and careful management of the bookings. Enjoy a well earned rest!
Loved your video we were lucky enough to do a similar trip last year, well worth a visit.
Thanks for sharing. I visited Skellig Michael a few years ago while cycling down the west coast, it’s an amazing place! Also had a beautiful day but the crossing was very rough, the American tourists vomiting over the side of the boat right next to me really added to the experience.
John Beatty writes:
Yep, Brid died last Saturday after 18 months of bouts of cancer. Very sad. What a guy!
John Beatty
Jill Sumner writes:
Gary Gibson put the news on Facebook…
Thanks for your message John, I climbed with Brid for 65yrs on and off. He managed to do Joe Browns numbers some time back, he got a nice letter back from Joe.
John Farrow writes:
Hi Dave,
I fear you, your son and the Club are caught by the law. The Club admits only those 18 and over as members. The law obliges anyone under 18 involved in Club activities to be accompanied by one of its parents or an adult declared – in writing – to be in loco parentis – standing in for the parent. If you look at the Club’s Rules on the website you will see there is following the main body a Child Protection Policy which sets out the issue in detail.
The Club isn’t only caught by the law in this matter. If there were an incident involving an unaccompanied under 18 year old – still technically a child – it’s likely the Club’s insurance cover would be invalid or more accurately that of the members’ affected, since the Club itself isn’t insured. It’s being a paid up BMC member that provides cover. If the parent or person in loco parentis not a BMC member that would be another complication.
I had the dubious pleasure of needing to try to understand these issues.
Best wishes, John Farrow
Hello,
Please could I request the Alpine 4000m book & Northern Limestone?
Thank you,
Harriet
Hi where can i find the full Wednesday evening climbing meets – everything is on the RC callendar except Wednesday evening climbing – why!
Awesome article Andy – Just seen it… impressive 🙂
Firstly , I must wish Dave the very best on his recovery. Re the cost quoted for rehab services, is it certain he will be charged or have the costs be mentioned ‘in passing? Perhaps it may be to do with Welsh and English health authorities being funded separately and a charge made to the English NHS rather than him personally? I had a friend who also fall in acaving accident , sustaining serious injury . She lived in Yorkshire but was transfered to the specialist services of Spinal Injuries Unit in Southport.
Apologies, intended to say if Dave is a resident of England, the NHS cost etc
Dave Crilley has commented:
Hi , I have had a chat to my son about Dave’s situation, he is a Barrister specialising in clinical issues. He said there are two main charities that help people with spinal injuries. One is called Backup and according to Darrel they help with all aspects of recuperation including mental issues. I am sure the medical team will inform Dave of the help he can expect.
John Allen has commented:
From the posting by John Warburton I have just learnt that Dave Palmer had a serious accident while scrambling on Tryfan in April this year. This must be devastating for him, and those around him. I know no details beyond the entry here by John Warburton and am not seeking to find out. The poor guy seems to require a lot of rehabilitation requiring time and resilience. Such an accident could happen to anyone in the mountains. I wish him and all round him an eventual full recovery.
John Allen, member since 1961
John,
Have you seen the gofundme site that Tess has set up to raise funds, details are on Meta/Facebook. Tess is also managing the visiting so don’t just rock up at the hospital without arranging your visit.
Regards,
George
Thanks everyone for your comments and advice, I will pass the info on to Dave’s daughter .
John.
https://en.eurovelo.com/ev19
I used the app outdooractive which gives you all European baps and you can plan your route. Just follow eurovrlo signs and you will be fine.
This looks like a handy guide … perhaps you have already seen it? https://en.francevelotourisme.com/cycle-route/the-meuse-cycle-route
https://mapscompany.com/products/guide-velo-la-meuse-a-velo-du-plateau-de-langres-a-rotterdam-sur-leurovelo-19-bikeline?country=GB
Try this Pete. Have a great trip.
I used to live in Belgium. For camping check out the Bivakzones https://www.bivakzone.be/ which are a great little network of camping spots.
Thanks for all the replies – will try and get hold of the guide from the map company.
Hi,
Thanks all,
So have now ordered the guide book that Jim recommended – it think its like the Rhine and Danube one so should do the job.
Good thing about the club is that someone will have done everything before – crossing Greenland/Mont Blanc from the med/new routes in Morocco/El Cap – someone will have done it.
Thanks again
pete
Forgot to say my details are in the handbook.
Amer Obeid
Hi Neil,
I would like to submit some of my activities to the Journal.
I had sent you an email, but it returned unable to deliver.
Please can you share your email address.
Thank you
Monika
MEUSE CYCLE WAY.
Now back after a great trip.. The guide bookend other info from members was useful, but when i got to the start every little town with a tourist office had free guides, but just for the French bit!
Route was well waymarked, with excellent often smooth tarmac so helped to speed us along. Surprising that we had no bike malfunction with is unusual for a long trip.
Camp sites excellent and about half the UK price – and of course beer and wine very good value. So would recommend to anyone and ive now got piles of info.
Pete
Great pictures, great report of a great meet. Thanks very much Ian, that’s my meet report done!
Andy L
Dear Andy .I remember Rum very well It was one of my qualifying meets in 1986. I think .We had a great time staying in a building near the mausoleum . I think your dad Lead the meet. ps looked like great weather.
This is a retro visit to Rum In the 1980ts In fact one of my qualifying meets for membership ! Older members will recognise some of the members in one of the pictures! also there are ones of Ray Lee & Myself on the main ridge. We stayed at the mausoleum site in a estate building which was weather proof but not snore proof! It was a great introduction to the club if a noisy one. I seem to remember Taffy got lost as usual. Ray lee was my sponsor & I think Stan Bradshore was present .Meet was led by john LLewellyn who I think Camped else ware ! Sorry about this not in the right place put it is my first try at this method of communication.Tom.
Recognised a few there including Geoff, Gareth (looking very young), Ted, John, not sure if Rod Mann was there?
Thanks Tom for posting those ‘historic’ pictures of the meet which my Dad led to Rum almost 40 years ago. Some great names from the past there, with Gareth and Geoff Edge looking slightly younger than they did last week.
Also fascinating picture of the boat, some may say the way CalMac are currently performing we may be relying on fishing boats again in the future!
Andy
Yes i agree with you about Calmac! I seem to remember on our visit to Rum .we used the large ferry to get us to the island & took the fishing boat (pictured) for landing ! Our packs were put in with the fishing nets ! mine smelt of fish for some time! I think the pier was unable to cope with the larger draft of the main ferry. You have to be carefull on transfer! Tom.
I managed to find the Meetstaff Report, there seem to be about 4 survivors! The weather was better and the boat times gave us half a day longer on Rum.
26-28 OCT.1958 BOTHY MEET. RHUM
Ted Courtenay leader
These who came:- John Llewellyn, Gareth Llewellyn, Vin Dillon, Albert Dale, Taffy Davies, Walter Riley, StanBradshaw, Brian Rhodes, Gordon Adshead, Rodney Mann, Geoff Edge, C.Wilkins, George Hostford, Karen Hostford, Ray Lee and guest
Thanks Geoff for finding the names on the meet. I see I was members guest! It was a great meet ! And a very interesting introduction to the club ! Tom.
I didn’t realise Gareth was around in 1958, no wonder he looks so old these days, and I thought Geoff looked surprisingly young in the photo.
Dear Mike ,I think we are all looking old now ! I found some ones of my younger days which made me think a bit!! regards’ Tom.
Great pictures, Tom.
Can you (or Andy) put names to the people in the group picture, please?
Ian
Gerry Goldsmith has volunteered for the 7 mile variant and Gwyn Thomas has volunteered for the 10 mile variant. Many thanks to Gerry and Gwyn.
Also, thanks to Geoff Edge for putting his name forward as well
Good question Ian. My memory says:
Back row LtoR: Geoff Edge, Gareth Llewellyn, lovely fella and I recognise the face but name escapes me, Ted Courtenay.
Front Row LtoR: Possibly Ian O’Keefe, ??, Gordon Adshead, Rod Mann, Brian Rhodes.
Andy
I think it is Graham Heafford on the back row.
Closest to the camera just might be Ross Wilson who I seam to recall being there; I don’t recall Ian O’keefe being on the meet.
I also think TC led the meet rather than dad, but I might be wrong…
Great photos, great memories!
Yes Graham Heafford, thanks for the reminder.
For those who couldn’t make it, the video is available in the Virtual Meets library (via the “Get Out There” menu above) or by clicking here:
https://rucksackclub.org/virtual-meet-gallery/
Great photos, Tom. Thanks for sharing.
Ps, dates are 28th Dec to 4th January (minor detail….)
Coordination of transport/travel arrangements, possible climbing partners etc to follow!
Bill, have you counted in the members who have bought calendars direct from the CAC website?
as i have all ready bought 3 calenders via CAC i wondered if they were included .
AS it as prompted me to buy i more .
Thanks for all your good work as a cancer diagosed its all valued.
Cheers STAN
Nicely put Bill,
I recently visited another one of the Club’s mighty fine huts and found it in immaculate condition which was great. However, it struck me that this is becoming the exception rather than the norm. So come on everyone, it’s a privilege to have part ownership and access to these 3 great huts in fantastic locations for a fraction of the price of a round of drinks. I know how tempting it can be at this time of the year to have to rush out into the cold, damp conditions on a soggy, windswept hillside. But please spend an hour polishing the hut and making it shine before you depart!
I don’t usually get ‘taken in’ by Black Friday deals, but your sales pitch is so utterly convincing that I will see you at the ‘Godless place’ 8.30 a.m., Saturday morning.
Andy L
I can remember tiling the kitchen some 30 years ago-I guess its really ready for some updating!
Hello, I can’t find a working link to the Virtual Meets Gallery. Can anyone help?
Thanks
Peter Cockshott
Hi Peter
Sorry, I’ve only just seen this. You can get to the gallery via the “Get Out There” menu or clicking on the link in the article above should work.
Ian
Many thanks Ian, the update is really useful. Clearly the website continues to grow and is very impressive.
Andy